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R.W 
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Posted: 26 Feb 2011 at 6:54pm |
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Any brand and model or just brand. What is your least favorite and why? I dont think i have one yet I would say john deere but i cant sense I have one!
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abbaschild95
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Posted: 26 Feb 2011 at 7:08pm |
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thats a harder question than what my favorite is!! i hate the kind that dont work. how bout that? haha
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Great-granfather's WC---- hopefully many more to come!
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Posted: 26 Feb 2011 at 7:28pm |
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Belarus and kioti. Belarus becuase of the controls and steering. Kioti because they are gut less and rough riding. Long story short, friend of the family bought a kioti, I believe it was a DK90, and I ended up using to to bale with a gehl round baler. I can't remember the the model but I know it made 4x5 bales so it wasn't very big. Anyways the kioti could barely pull the baler up the hill with a bale in it. Granted it may be more of a mountian then hill but I went back and got my grandfather in-law's 190xt and had no trouble.
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Thad in AR.
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Posted: 26 Feb 2011 at 7:41pm |
I spent 2 summers on a 7520 John Deere 4wd and hated it. That was the roughest riding hard shifting pos I've ever been on. we were farming irrigated corn ground and my kidneys still hurt to this day. It would rub the back side of your legs raw bouncing in the seat.
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Posted: 26 Feb 2011 at 7:42pm |
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Posted: 26 Feb 2011 at 7:48pm |
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Farmall 560. most uncomfortable hunk of iron made. dont know how many times scapped knuckles on throttle lever while turning steering wheel.
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Posted: 26 Feb 2011 at 8:09pm |
anything Massey.
Yeah, I am a poor loser. (with a long memory)
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Posted: 26 Feb 2011 at 8:20pm |
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any and everything Green. Wouldnt farm with one if i were paid too.
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Posted: 26 Feb 2011 at 8:32pm |
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Massey ferguson
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Pat the Plumber CIL
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Posted: 26 Feb 2011 at 9:20pm |
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An old boss of mine had a Ferguson TO 20. He loved it and thought it was the greatest thing since sliced bread.I don't know if I hated that tractor because of him or the tractor itself.He completely restored it and would have me and the other guys at work sand blast and clean parts when work was slow.I thought it was a pile of junk.
Also what good does a starter gear do?
What good does that do you as you are driving it into a fence with the bushhog because you can't stop with the PTO going.Just my 2 cents.
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You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails
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CTuckerNWIL
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Posted: 26 Feb 2011 at 9:28pm |
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Pat, you could tell the guy they made overunning clutches just for the PTO on those tractors.
My least favorite while growing up was the 770 Olivers that 2 neighbors had. 1. I disliked the free wheeling underside of the torque. 2. the gears semed to howl like a coyote loud enough to drown out the fender mount radio. 3. the brakes either grabbed and locked up or wouldn't begin to slow you down. Now days I think the brakes just needed a little attention once in awhile and I would park a 770 in the shed if the opportunity came along when there was an empty spot in the shed.
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Posted: 26 Feb 2011 at 9:37pm |
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It was an early TO Charlie and I do not know if that was available on that model.His 35 and 65 had the crappy 2 stage clutch that would stop the tractor but that 20 wouldn't.A later model clutch would probably fit,but that jerk would have left it that way
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You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails
1964 D-17 SIV 3 Pt.WF,1964 D-15 Ser II 3pt.WF ,1960 D-17 SI NF,1956 WD 45 WF.
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Pat the Plumber CIL
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Posted: 26 Feb 2011 at 9:39pm |
 Pat the Plumber CIL wrote:
It was an early TO Charlie and I do not know if that was available on that model.His 35 and 65 had the crappy 2 stage clutch that would stop the tractor but that 20 wouldn't.A later model clutch would probably fit,but that jerk would have left it that way |
You talkin about the mower itself Charlie or the tractor?
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You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails
1964 D-17 SIV 3 Pt.WF,1964 D-15 Ser II 3pt.WF ,1960 D-17 SI NF,1956 WD 45 WF.
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Posted: 26 Feb 2011 at 10:16pm |
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i guess my least favorite was a David Brown 1200. It had the two stage clutch, the pto clutch being attached to a lever. If the pto was left disengaged the throw out bearing would burn out. The tractor didn't have to be split, only the transmission/flywheel cover removed (about 80 lb of cast iron), to fix the clutch. It only had six speeds forward, non syncro, not slow enough or fast enough. The hydralic system would loose it's prime, sometimes in 2 minutes sometime would work all day. Finally found a pinhole in the inlet to the pump. Good side was that it had good pulling power and ran cheap. Sold it for about the same as I paid for it, around $1500.
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Posted: 26 Feb 2011 at 10:44pm |
I think a Ford 8N is the most overrated tractor out there. They bring big money for a tractor that has no live power, awful hyd, and very underpowered.
MF and Ford are my worst with Ford being a little better than MF. They are ok for hobby farmers but are not built for the serious user. The older MF hyd aren't very good. The main thing that bothers me with both the MF and Ford is having to reach under the seat to operate the remote hyd on some models.
I do have a MF40 backhoe. I was leary when I bought it but the price was right so I couldn't pass it up. It seems the industrial equipment is better than the farm equip. It has a front mounted high volume pump for the loader and hoe that works great. The power steering isn't very good though. I thought there was something wrong with the PS pump until I talked to a MF guy about it. He says that's about as good as they get. If I can figure out how to mount a decent PS pump in the place of the old one I think I'll really like the machine.
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Posted: 26 Feb 2011 at 11:17pm |
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The overruning clutch was never part of the tractor, it goes ON the PTO shaft of the tractor and the shortened mower PTO couples to it. Allises needed it too if you used the foot clutch instead of the hand clutch for stopping.
The earliest MF used many parts in common with the 8N, but they got better and I've not have great problems with my MF-135 and its power steering works even with too big a loader on it. Now that I put it back tegether from it breaking the piston rod. And there were several different tractors called MF-135, with Perkins dieslel and sometimes gas made in US and UK, plus some US with Continental gas, UK with a Standard engine, and considerably different but still called a MF-135 made in France and Germany. Probably different yet made in South Africa and India where they are copied yet as well as in Eastern European countries. All were about the same size and engine rating and paint colors but little besides tires swaps between them.
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Posted: 26 Feb 2011 at 11:22pm |
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Posted: 26 Feb 2011 at 11:25pm |
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i would have to go with a farmall 706 wf that my uncle owns. it has a loader and a 3pt snow blower on it at the time and i had to use it to load a set of duals onto a trailer. powersteering didnt work and it seemed to barely run. worst tractor ever. always called it the frankenstein tractor eversince.
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Posted: 27 Feb 2011 at 12:31am |
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dad used to have a to20 that was about the least usable thing i ever drove.
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Posted: 27 Feb 2011 at 4:54am |
The worst ever as far as I am concerned is a Field Marshall - a stationary engine on wheels! The Ferguson-Brown is a close second.
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Posted: 27 Feb 2011 at 9:54am |
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Anything that does not want to start when I need it...
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Posted: 27 Feb 2011 at 9:54am |
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the comfort king CASE was a lie lol
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Posted: 27 Feb 2011 at 9:56am |
[QUOTE=chllngr528]Belarus and kioti. Belarus becuase of the controls and steering. Kioti because they are gut less and rough riding. Long story short, friend of the family bought a kioti, I believe it was a DK90, and I ended up using to to bale with a gehl round baler. I can't remember the the model but I know it made 4x5 bales so it wasn't very big. Anyways the kioti could barely pull the baler up the hill with a bale in it. Granted it may be more of a mountian then hill but I went back and got my grandfather in-law's 190xt and had no trouble. [/QUOT E]
I will agree with Belarus, my least favorite brand out there, I was unimpressed with a Brand New Belarus that I sat it at a Farm Show back in 2002. They were right across from the JD & CIH displays. Had a hard time getting in and out of the cab, it was too cluttered and the cheap plastic door handle broke off in my hand.
A Close 2nd would be those Ponton tractors that get shipped in a create from China.
I will drive anything, but I would never own a Belarus.
Take Care Jason B
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Posted: 27 Feb 2011 at 10:03am |
ironac wrote:
i would have to go with a farmall 706 wf that my uncle owns. it has a loader and a 3pt snow blower on it at the time and i had to use it to load a set of duals onto a trailer. powersteering didnt work and it seemed to barely run. worst tractor ever. always called it the frankenstein tractor eversince. |
Sounds like that 706 is in need of some maintence. I use to drive a 806 close to year around and never had a problem. In fact it is one of my favorite tractors. You can't fault a piece of equipment due to lack of maintence.
Edited by chllngr528 - 27 Feb 2011 at 10:04am
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Posted: 27 Feb 2011 at 10:55am |
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AC ,G is the hardest tractor to get on and off of
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Posted: 27 Feb 2011 at 10:57am |
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I'd guess I'd have to vote for my dad's '47 JD B. That thing was gutless, hard to steer and rough riding. I spent many hours cultivating 2 rows at a time with it in first or second gear...if I killed the engine I would have to go find dad to get it running again. Of course I was only around 8 years old at the time....and I might think it is ok now. I find it kind of hard to not like any tractor.....
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Posted: 27 Feb 2011 at 1:30pm |
Least favorite is easy for me. The Oliver 70 with a 2 row cultivator. Putting on the cultivator was "A @#$%ing TASK". Cultivate was a real task trying to keep it on the row. The Brake pedals were the size of mushrooms and had little effect on stopping.
My second least favorite, I hate to say is the RC. Had no power.
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Posted: 27 Feb 2011 at 1:45pm |
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8N Ford. Dislike everything about it.
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Posted: 27 Feb 2011 at 4:19pm |
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Anything that says Ferguson or MF. That "MF" does not stand for "Mighty Fine" IMO. N series Fords are about a 1/2 step up from there. The NAA or Jubilee might be better until you compare it to a Super 55/550 Oliver. I wouldn't mind having a 900 series Ford with a Select-O-Speed trans just to have though.
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Posted: 27 Feb 2011 at 5:06pm |
Gotta say the Ford 8N and the international Cub we have here. Has a woods L59 mower deck on it and it about stalls out just when you turn that darn thing on! The fords just don't seem like they have much power at all and in my opinion really arn't comfortable to drive.
I do also have a love/hate relationship with our Case 885 here at work. Thing pops out of gear when in reverse and never wants to pop into gear when you need it to!
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