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KJCHRIS 
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Posted: 10 Apr 2019 at 1:28pm |
$2.95 for 0 alcohol today, is up $0.18 in 3 weeks. $2.73 for blend, can't recall what it was.
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Dave H
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Posted: 10 Apr 2019 at 8:21am |
I am the same as Aaron. Don't run around chasing gas. E 10 treats me well without additives.
Just fired up my Z turn and lawn tractor after setting all winter. They slurp down that E10.
I am not an advocate of E10 at all don't get me wrong.
I personally think there is to much legend associated with the woes of E10.
Edited by Dave H - 10 Apr 2019 at 8:22am
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SteveM C/IL
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Posted: 09 Apr 2019 at 9:49pm |
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Hey Ted! If ya hafta run that line in the tank with a too small hole (it seems),buy extra long and cut long diagonal across line. Leaves a pointed end you can start real easy then pull on through!
Edited by SteveM C/IL - 09 Apr 2019 at 9:50pm
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Ted J
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Posted: 09 Apr 2019 at 6:20pm |
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I haven't been out, so I can't say. But I know I'm getting sick n tired of changing out the cheap plastic pickup lines in the weed wacker and blower. The ethanol gas just eats those up.
The manf. says there are no problems with ethanol and these machines. Well I sure wish he'd show his dumb azz around here so I could show him, actually, MAKE HIM change out the little hoses. It's a royal pain. IDIOTS..
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chaskaduo
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Posted: 09 Apr 2019 at 2:49pm |
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$2.54 for regular unleaded today, didn't catch the non ethanol price.
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Posted: 21 Mar 2019 at 9:43pm |
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Same here, chaskaduo. Gas tractors, old Jeep and small engines no corn gas.
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chaskaduo
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Posted: 21 Mar 2019 at 4:24pm |
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I only use the ethanol free in anything that sits for more than a month or two without use. I've had to many carb problems in the past and for a few bucks extra a year, it ain't worth the chance for extra work. I guess if that makes me kind of lazy, so be it.
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steve(ill)
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Posted: 21 Mar 2019 at 1:07pm |
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Im with Dave and Tom.......... bought a 1989 FORD F250 and all they had in Illinois was E10... been using that for 30 years.. Goes in the lawn mower, Bs , chain saw, everything..... Most set thru the winter for 90 days or better.. Start right up in the spring.
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Ken in Texas
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Posted: 21 Mar 2019 at 6:51am |
Checked the sign yesterday at the Jiffy Mart in South Longview Texas. Ethanol Free was $2.899. Only place local that you get Ethanol Free cept it ain't FREE. I thought my AMC 360 in my 83 Cherokee would like this stuff. To tell the truth, I couldn't tell the difference between it and Murphy grade 87 except for what it costs.
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Ted J
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Posted: 20 Mar 2019 at 9:35pm |
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$3.44 here today, for ethanol free (High test to me).
Gas went up another dime today.
87 is $3.69.9
15% ethanol is $3.65.9
SOB's!!!!!! NO reason for it....
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chaskaduo
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Posted: 20 Mar 2019 at 11:34am |
Still $3 and holding here 1/2 mile away. Tain't no controversy.  |
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ACinSC
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Posted: 20 Mar 2019 at 10:10am |
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Bought a little more non ethanol this morning . Should be enough to fill the tank on the D 15 . Hopefully it will help clean whatever is still on the inside of the tank . Didn't mean to cause any controversy . Still $3 a gallon . Thanks
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Posted: 20 Mar 2019 at 12:35am |
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And that's wise this day and age.
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allisrutledge
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Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 10:08pm |
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Thanks Elliott, I just want to know I'm getting what I pay for.
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Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 7:52pm |
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BreakTime/ MFA sells that stuff around here, the diesel fuel will not start a brush pile fire, the gas is so horrible on gas milage,, what a joke !!! They can make rocket fuel , but cant get enthanol right ,,
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HD6GTOM
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Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 7:35pm |
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Why, I use e15 in everything. My chain saw sets for 6-7 months at a time and always starts. Never had or seen this separating in hundreds of hours of lab testing.
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chaskaduo
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Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 8:24am |
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Scott google ethanol tester for gasoline, lots of kits and testers available online.
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Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 7:29am |
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It's like $4.00 here and only one place in the County handles it. It's all I use is two strokes and other small gas engines. Really need to check if carb kits use ethanol proof components. Tractors are made to run on cheap gas. It's the soft part break down in the fuel system and storage that's the issue.
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Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 6:53am |
Everyone complains about how terrible the ethanol gas is and how it only last a couple months. We have a lot of gas tractors and never put stabilizer in them and never have trouble. I've filled up my bulk tank in December with 87 gas from the pump and run it until empty in June with no trouble. The farm tanks sit with gas in them for 1-2 years. I used the farm tank gas in my WD45. Last year it wasn't used much and after being in the tractor tank 1.5 years I could finally tell it was getting weak. Tractor with high compression 8.2:1 would diesel for a bit after shutting off. After a year, the old 300,000 mile truck that only drives around the yard and misses terrible finally wouldn't hardly run with the old gas. I never drain the lawnmower or 4-wheeler and they always run fine next spring. Seems better than 4 weeks.
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allisrutledge
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Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 6:41am |
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Is there a way for an individual to test gas for ethanol other than put it in a glass and wait. Every tanker driver I talk to says it's all got some in it. I get non ethanol gas delivered but would like to test it. Scott
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Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 6:37am |
 victoryallis wrote:
ACinSC wrote:
Paid $3 a gallon this morning . Wonder how many of y'all run it in your old tractor like I do ? |
Against the American farmer?
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Posted: 18 Mar 2019 at 9:04pm |
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I think you are on to something Ted. We just had a record oil pumping year also.
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Ted J
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Posted: 18 Mar 2019 at 8:51pm |
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Is this the "anti Trump" people doing this? Yes, it usually goes up in the spring, but this is premature yet. This is price gouging at it's best.
I think they're looking for $4 a gal this summer so they can blame it all on Trump. My thoughts....
There is NO EXCUSE for it going up this early in the year and this big a jump in just a couple of weeks. WTH!!??
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Posted: 18 Mar 2019 at 8:19pm |
ACinSC wrote:
Paid $3 a gallon this morning . Wonder how many of y'all run it in your old tractor like I do ? |
Against the American farmer? Got a dirty fuel system?
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Posted: 18 Mar 2019 at 7:54pm |
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The station I buy at in Michigan has regular at $2.85, non ethanol premium at $3.49. Thanks.
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Posted: 17 Mar 2019 at 5:20pm |
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$3.75.9 here and going up! ---can't afford that so I use alki. grade and cut it with a bit of diesel. ---Everything runs o.k. on it! NOT the best choice!
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Posted: 17 Mar 2019 at 12:32pm |
VAfarmboy I miss spoke and it's the ethanol gas that phase separates absorbing moisture after a while, also read somewhere that the parts of the alcohol and gas molecules combine after time and form little strands. The ethanol free gas starts losing it's upper light end distillates and octane when not completely sealed and kept at moderate temps, same goes for ethanol gas. I think I got it right this time. I'll go check my blood glucose again.
May be Dave Kamp can chime in for us.
Edited by chaskaduo - 17 Mar 2019 at 12:36pm
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Posted: 17 Mar 2019 at 11:50am |
I don't know all the 'technicals' about it but... if you take a gallon of it, fresh from the pump, fill a clean glass big jar with it, place on solid shelf, see what happens after a week, then 2 then 4..... that 'gas' is now $4.50 US$ per USG here today...
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Posted: 17 Mar 2019 at 11:01am |
chaskaduo wrote:
The ethanol is hydroscopic (water absorbing) and hard on a lot of plastics, regular and synthetic rubbers. The non ethanol new gas still will phase separate and lose its octane etcetera with in a month or two if I understand correctly. |
What is different about new gas that makes it phase separate? When I was a kid back in the 1970s the combine, several of the tractors and the grain trucks we had were 1960s gassers and we had a buried 500 gallon tank in the barnyard that dad would have it filled every spring before planting and every fall before harvest. I never remember any worries about gas going bad in the tank back then and I know it sat in there for several months.
Edited by VAfarmboy - 17 Mar 2019 at 11:02am
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Posted: 16 Mar 2019 at 9:19pm |
We don't have non E10 here that I'm aware of. Gas will be going up more soon as they say the summer blend costs more to make.
I had an old guy tell me once that unleaded gas won't give you a problem sitting for a time. It is the same as white gas and that stuff never goes bad. I leave it in all my gas equipment year round and never have any problems after extended sitting time. My friend was surprised when I went to get the D14 out last spring. First start of the year after sitting all winter. I hooked up the battery, turned on the gas, and it fire right off.
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