Rebuilding the D14 backhoe/loader

 Hey Good buddy,,,,There is only one restriction orifice in the bank of 6 control valves,,,and it "IN" in the valve for the swing ,,but I don't think it is the culprit as the swing WILL move to the left like it susspossed to and maybe even a little too much,,!! The only result of having these two hoses reversed is that the control lever would be backwards as well,,,,right,,,???
  Shameless,,,do you think ole Joe would haphazardly reinstall them brand new, expensive hoses just whereever,,,,????  As a fact of the matter,,,I used a wide tip sharpie to number "EVERY" connection and every hose end before removing from the control valve bank as well as the cylinder location, so I can state, I will wager my next Social Security check,,,,,,agin' just one of your buried cash cans that they are hooked up correctly,,,,,,???,,,,but I DO APPRECIATE your input and concern,,tho. You can see my numberin on some of the pics I posted before
 On the filter question, there was NOT a filter on the tractor when I bought it,,,,,but I DID install one after I redid the hydraulic lines to add the bigger selector valve and the two new quick couplers.
  Shore hopin some of them guys wakin up got some feedback this mornin,,,,,,

    Hey Dan,,you may have a point there,,,as it is POSSIBLE that the hoses were hooked up WRONG to start with when I bought the tractor,,,and I just duplicated the PO's mistake,but not knowin' enough bout the tractor way back then,,is why I did number the inlet and outlet ports of every valve as well as every port at every cylinder,,,before I removed each hose from either end. The valve that controls the swing is the only one of the 6 that had 3/8" fittings and hoses where the other 5 control valves had 1/2" fittings/hoses. Clear as mud,,???
  Wanting to be sure I am sayin somethin correct, I went out this mornin and operated The other functions to make sure the directional action is correct from the hand levers to the various cylinders. That buried can of dollar bills is lookin better all the time,,,,,

My guess is that you have 2 cylinders one extends when the other retracts and that either one cylinder is bad or they are plumbed wrong.

NO,,Dan,,,this "tower" as I'm calling it is what operates the swing and there are NO external cylinders for the swing,,,it is all controlled inside this "tower" with some sort of internal hydraulic motor operating some gears,,,, maybe. You can see a pic of this "tower" on page 5 of this thread,,,,big bulky cylindrical thing bout 12" diameter and bout 14" high,, settin right under the control levers.,,,,,

OK,,,UPDATE # 99,,,which means I am almost done with this "14" project,,,and I'm kinda proud how it turned out,,,,and since my Email to the president may leave me no choice,,,I may have to give it away,,,,, Lots and LOTs of hours to get it to this point,,,and I already gots a job for it right on the ranch,,,,!!!!

This is MY version of how to repair the hydraulic pump drive shaft where it will outlast the pump.

The inboard outrigger pins and their supports were wallowed out very bad. I machined new pins and housings and replaced both.

main boom cylinder repairs needed a new head and pusher made, so,,I get to fire up the lathe again,,,,,
   
   I am especially proud of this one,,the wood on the quick steer is a chunk of pecan from my smoke wood pile and just gave me a reason to play with the lathe again,,,,,,
Got to take the wife to Walmart,,,will post rest of them later

I hadn't measured the overall,,but thet thing will dig a DEEP hole,,,!!!
   
   1" full bore Diverter valve
    
    I Finally get it UP,,,,,, and it stays up,,,,,

Anyone has a reason to be pleased with how that turned out! NICE! Thanks for the pics!!!

   Hey Thanks for the kind words, BenGiBoy and Robert,,,, It's been a good project,,,
 I just thought I was thru but when I was messin with the hoe, I noticed some play when opening and closing the bucket,,so I set it up on blocks and,,,,shore 'nuff,,,6 of the 8 bushings were wallowed some,,,,,CHIT,,,!! This tractor was originally bought by Bureau of Reclamation for the Forest Service up in Fort Stanton and it had a hard life diggin holes, ditches in the mountains,,so no small wonder on beatin them bushins up,,,,,
 Went to the local machine shop and bought a chunk of bearing bronze to make the 6 bushings and like to fell over,,,,,,$112 for 13" of 2"X1 1/4" bronze,,,gosh dang,,,!!! gonna have to sneak back up to Blair and dig up another can of money while our buddy is gone to Hutch,,,,,,,,,,,that'll teach him for goin up thar 'thought me,,,,,
 That little job and the Rotary swing issue and I'll be done with this project,,,,HMmmmm,,,wonderin what happened to ole JoeO,,,,??? Are Ya thar,,Joe,,??


Edited by desertjoe - 15 Jul 2016 at 5:04am

I didnt read this entire post, but I think that rotary swing unit is a Cessna. MinnPar can get you parts. Also Massey Fergeson used that same unit on some of their hoes and their parts I think are still listed and much more affordable than ragco. I think the Allis 615 hoe was using the same unit. More than likely a simple blown seal. Good luck and let us know. I am REALLY IMPRESSED!!!! Its been a long, tough road for you in many ways!

Edited by JayIN - 15 Jul 2016 at 7:03pm

  Hey,,THANKS for the kind words,,Guys,,,,I won't soon forget workin on this thing in the hottest part of the year,,,dang,,,it HOT,,,!!!
 Hey JayIn, do you got a place in mind where to buy M/F parts,,,,? I'm gonna have to insist on talkin to "John" at Minn-Par next time as when I called last week,,,,"Gary" told me they didn't have any parts listed for the Cessna rotary swing,,,,,the knothead,,,,!!!! 'acourse,,it bein Fri PM when I called,,,he prolly already had one foot in the door wantin to go home,,,,,,

  Hey Thanks,,,Jay,,,I'll keep that in mind for when I get the Rotary cylinder broke down to see what the issue is,,,,but,,,,but,,,I gotta get passed this mess I got strung out on the carport floor. I'm goin ahead and replace all the pins and bushings so I don't have to mess with it again,,,,,,,Got all the old bushings knocked out and bores cleaned up and sittin on ready,,,,,and waitin on the new bushings,,,,,
 That bronze sure does machine easy but that chit flies all over the place,,,!!! I'm having to vacuum to keep it from workin into where the cuttings don't need to be,,,,,
 Rotary Cylinder,,,,,,here I come,,,,!!!

I was fixin' to send you a PM to see if you had received and what you needed.

Joe you do amazing work.    But I would like to see more grease around them fittings an pins. It hardly looks like you touched them with the grease gun....lol

Wow you wipe it back off.... want to come and grease my stuff for me? Mine all have grease smears all around the pins and anywhere else it pops out... Seems like you can't grease anything without walking away covered with grease and I don't try to clean it up you must be covered... lol

me thinks I seen a new little puppy in the back ground!