is this a WD or WD45 ?
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Topic: is this a WD or WD45 ?
Posted By: jnclewis
Subject: is this a WD or WD45 ?
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2012 at 11:11pm
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Hi Guy's, New to your forum and need your help already! Just bought my first Allis. I bought it as a 1949 wd. I was pretty positive it wasn't a 49 ( I could see 50 and 51 dates), but to further confuse the situation, I went to pick up a loader for it today and the fellow had 6-7 wd's and wd-45's and 60 years of knowledge about them. While looking around at his piles of treasure's I started to wonder about the exact model I had purchased. The serial # on the rear end is WD47054 but the engine doesn't have the large plate on the side of the block like his WD's . Mine also has a distributor whereas his WD's were all mag's. His WD-45's looked like the exact engine, had a distributor. How can I tell what I have? The only part I got for it so far was a starter drive which should be interchangeable... Any help in deciphering this conundrum would be great!
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Posted By: irlbeck A-C'S
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2012 at 11:14pm
| WD with an engine change. The 45's had a gear shifter that was curved. |
Posted By: deereequipment1
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2012 at 7:23am
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the curved shifter is not 100% proof. This DOES have the straight shifter, and looks like it has the shorter head, so best guess is that this is a WD. Get the serial number and google it online, and that will tell you for sure. Now, looking at the oil filter canister, this also looks like it has the Leroi engine in it. Its a little bit different than the Allis engine. Good Luck. ------------- Raised on a CA,WD,D10 & D15. Now, proudly own and pull a WD45 high crop, WD45, WC, also own a D-10, D-12, G and a CA. |
Posted By: Don(MO)
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2012 at 7:39am
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You have a WD with a 201 Leroy engine in it. ------------- 3 WD45's with power steering,G,D15 fork lift,D19, W-Speed Patrol, "A" Gleaner with a 330 corn head,"66" combine,roto-baler, and lots of Snap Coupler implements to make them work for their keep. |
Posted By: Unit3
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2012 at 8:00am
| Don, what gives it away as a LeRoi engine? There is a pair of them in some Bantom draglines at my local salvage yard. They look like AC's to me. |
Posted By: Don(MO)
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2012 at 8:28am
Two of the things that tell me Leroy are the canister oil filter and the timing cover.
This tractor has a WD45 gov and dist in it too.
Don ------------- 3 WD45's with power steering,G,D15 fork lift,D19, W-Speed Patrol, "A" Gleaner with a 330 corn head,"66" combine,roto-baler, and lots of Snap Coupler implements to make them work for their keep. |
Unit3 wrote:Posted By: AaronSEIA
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2012 at 9:32am
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Don't mean to sound like the correct police, but that loader frame is mounted about a foot too far forward. No big deal unless you are lifting real heavy stuff or have short arms as you'll have a hard time reaching the trip lever. Also, if thats the stock oil pressure gauge location, it's darn near worthless. Would that engine have originally been on a power unit? AaronSEIA
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Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2012 at 9:49am
| Ain't no worse than factory PS hiding oil guage on my 45. |
Posted By: deereequipment1
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2012 at 2:46pm
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The Leroi engines have that canister oil filter, and alot of them don't have a thermostat, or even the location for a thermostat. The water manifold is just a straight shot up to the radiator hose. There are also no markings on the block like the AC blocks have. I had one in a WD45, and was NOT impressed with it. It had no power. It was a 201 with the shorter head, and it did not do well on the dyno. ------------- Raised on a CA,WD,D10 & D15. Now, proudly own and pull a WD45 high crop, WD45, WC, also own a D-10, D-12, G and a CA. |
Posted By: AC Tundra
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2012 at 4:39pm
 ------------- What do you mean another tractor, honey? That tractor has been here for years. |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2012 at 7:01pm
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WD47054 is a 1949 WD, the straight shifter is always a WD. It also has had an engine swap and combine wheels put on it.
------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: EPALLIS
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2012 at 8:35pm
| Leroi engine? Never heard of such a thing. When did A-C use them, for how long and what models? Also noticed the rain cover on the exhaust is the opposite of mine. Never noticed one installed like that. Anyway, interesting pictures and post. Going orange is going great! |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2012 at 8:57pm
1. AC never used the engine in their tractors. As mentioned before, this tractor has had an engine swap. 2. The rain flap won't catch on low hanging tree branches this way. And if you drive into a rain real fast it won't flood the engine through the exhaust  ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: Dave in il
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2012 at 11:08pm
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Like CTucker said, that is how I was taught to put a rain cap on. Put one on backwards and a tree branch will bend or break it, put it on the right way and a tree branch just closes it till you're past it. ------------- AGCO My Allis Gleaner Company |
Posted By: jnclewis
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2012 at 7:19am
| I went this last weekend and picked up a loaderforr it. It took less than 2 minutes to figure out the frame was way to far forward! The mount that's on it has been butchered in the front mounting plate area. The loader came as a complete assm. but I didn't put the new mount on yet. Didn't know which holes in the frame were the correct ones. Oh ya and the way it's cobbled on it would have taken all day just to knock the welds off! |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2012 at 7:21am
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That loader frame should bolt on with no welding if done properly.
------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: jnclewis
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2012 at 7:24am
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Do you know serial # location for A-C and leroy engines? There is about 3/16" of paint on everything and a bugger to find any numbers.. Still waiting to buy a manual until I find out what it is. Thanks
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Posted By: jnclewis
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2012 at 7:27am
| Exactly! The fellow I bought it from said it was a nice set, up until his grandson got ahold of it.... darn kids... If you seen the way his loader was tore up you would have laughed(or cried) darn kids... |
Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2012 at 7:46am
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Allis sold cast blocks to LeRoi. LeRoi then added other components such as head, covers, oil filter etc. At least that's the way I understand it. I have also seen the 6 cylinder version of this engine in an air compressor with two of the cylinders used as the pump for the compressor. ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2012 at 8:01am
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You will more than likely need a manual for the tractor no matter what engine it has. You won't find a manual for a WD45 with a 201cu in Leroi engine. The 45 engine was 226 cu in also
------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: jnclewis
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2012 at 5:26pm
Mostly what I need are fluid spec's. type and amount, I'm looking online for some info on the Leroi now. What was the displacement on the 30 h.p. WD engine?
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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2012 at 5:33pm
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201, 4" bore and 4" stroke. The 45 just added a half inch to the stroke.
------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2012 at 6:16pm
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Your favorite multi weight engine oil; a universal transdraulic or Hytran fluid for the hydraulics and tranny, differential; and 80-90 gear lube in the final drives is what I have used for 30+ years in my WD45.
------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: jnclewis
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2012 at 7:10am
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Pretty much as I expected with the fluids. What type of fluid is used in the Governor? I don't recall ever dealing with anything like that...on anything! I just ordered a manual for the WD, should include any specs I might need. Thanks a bunch you guy's, you've been a big help! All I need now is some wheels and tires and some fresh paint!
If i told you what I've got into it you wouldn't believe me.....
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Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2012 at 7:23am
| Gov uses engine oil.That's the oil fill cap in front of distributor. |
Posted By: jnclewis
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2012 at 7:11am
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Thanks for the info. Do you know the stock size tires? I really despise the look of whats on it and more imortantly, It's a bugger to load on a trailer ( not very practical either)!
I really want to thank you guy's for the quick information, I've only had it a couple weeks and can see already why they have such a devote following.
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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2012 at 7:15am
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14.9-28 would be what most had. The tractor came with 4 rail power shift wheels. The rims and wheels on it now are most likely 26 inch combine wheels and don't allow for adjustments. ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: jnclewis
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2012 at 7:26am
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Posted By: Gary
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2012 at 8:38am
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Charlie 14.9 x 28 stock size on a WD !! What you ben smokin ?? Stock were 11" rims on a WD - right ? Gary
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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2012 at 8:39am
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I didn't know anybody used 24 inch on a combine. Thought the 8 bolt rims were all 26.
------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2012 at 1:13pm
Nothing worth talking a bout I guess I was stuck on the 45. Not sure what was originally on the WD but if you put 12.4's on em they look wimpy, JMO------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: jnclewis
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2012 at 8:10pm
I dont know what there off of , but I dont even need my spec's to read the sidewall of the tire...;)
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