price gouging

These examples are exactly why I look at how something is engineered and designed so that if needed it can be either completely eliminated or  redesigned to use a more common far cheaper and possibly even better alternative component in its place.

Dealer wanted 165$ for a coil in the B magneto, got one from Steve at B&B for 69$ along with a lot of help.

I have had very good results with DB Electrical.

NOS       New Old Stock

Theres a guy about 30 miles from me that rebuilds starters...He's very honest and very reasonable...He often saves people lots of money..Several times all he's done to mine is clean them up and charges $20-25..

Edited by 180Puller - 25 Aug 2016 at 6:06pm

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In that article the CPA suggested that parts on the shelf a few years should be priced at 5 or 6 times their original cost.

hahahaha...

really ? Obvious the CPA has NEVER ever worked in the REAL World ! parts on the shelf that long should be discounted 80-100% to GET RID OF THEM ! They're taking up valuable space, space that SHOULD be MAKING money NOT costing more. I got  a killer deal on Lexan Twinwall Polycarb sheeting. Miscuts, stored 'on the shelf', about 3000 sq ft of it for the cost of shipping after I said...you could use that space for real products that MAKE you money... mgr agreed. he calls me every so often asking if I need anything !

Also the CPS doesn't know about 'turns'. It means how often and when to reorder stock based upon sales. I cut BASIC code 40 years ago on a TRS80 to help local hobby shop. He made an extra 15-20% in just a few months,paid me in RC toys,beer and pizza !

Finally... I bought a NEW master cylinder for my 57 Willys PU one day, counter guy says $200, I said $75 as it had an inch of dust on it and asked him WHEN was the last ime he sold one? If you sell me this NOW, you can use the space for better sellers. I got it for $75.


Two other things I KNOW
1) you can't sell it, if it's NOT out on display
2) you can't sell it, if it's over priced
Jay

I've had AGCO dealers run part locaters for me a lot. I've bought several obsolete parts that way. I've had more than one run the locators.

jaybmiller wrote: Agco wanted $63 for the D-14 manifold gasket......I bought elsewhere for $10 AND got the carb gasket as well !! it really does pay to 'shop around'... Jay

My price is $46.70 on that gasket. I guess I will be making another call to AGCO and tell them they need to fix that price!

As Albert said there are some dealers that put way to much on their parts too. Which is too bad. We are suggested list and will stay suggested list.

Try Baum Hydraulics for the cylinder seals. http://www.baumhydraulics.com

There was an article in Electrical Apparatus magazine a couple months ago by a CPA talking about charges for parts stocked. Electrical Apparatus is aimed at electric motor repair shops. In that article the CPA suggested that parts on the shelf a few years should be priced at 5 or 6 times their original cost. I haven't checked lately but the contents of that magazine issue don't seem to have been placed on line. I would include a link to the article if I found it on line. Anyway its clear that the bean counters at Agco feel the same. I have felt its a feeling that the parts are occupying space that they feel should have holding gold bullion rising in value like farm land prices over the past 25 years.

Gerald J.

I left both the Starter and Alt at Longview Starter and Generator yesterday to be rebuilt. Pick them up today at noon on the way home after Chemo.
The owner is old like me and I trust he knows what he is doing or he wouldn't be in tne starter generator alternator business in the same location as long as he has.

    Well,Ken,,,I can certainly relate to some seemingly price gouging for AGCO parts. I been lookin for a seal kit for the Rotary swing Cylinder for the Mark IV for weeks and finally caught a Lady at AGCO that would take the time to try to help me. For one thing,as BIG a corporation as AGCO is,,,they do not have a "Locator" to see which dealer has one on the shelf,,,AGCO INSISTS you contact a dealer that services YOUR area, place an order, and wait,,,,,She told me agco DOES NOT want you contacting dealers out of your area,,,WHAT,,,???,,,
 I have had NO friggin luck locating a seal kit for the  Rotary cylinder by asking for the Allis PN, so, having been told that Massey ferguson used the same Cessna Cylinder, I started trying to locate a seal kit for the MF, but there were 3 different sizes used and I have not yet found a dealer that wants to take the time to verify the seal dimensions before I place order,,,,!!! I downloaded a pic of said kit,,,and  The kits come in a clear plastic bag and seals could very easily be calipered WITHOUT opening the friggin bag,,,but I ain't fount a dealer that wants to take the time to do so,,,,ARGGGGggg,,,!!!!!
  Anyway, the Lady with agco did email me back yesterday,,,and the kit PN I gave her, is available, FROM AGCO, to the tune of,,,,,,,,,,,,, $630.00,,,yes,, you heard right,,,$630,,!!!
  And, what's confusing, I located a kit in Australia and one in the UK priced at 130/ pound and have been workin with two members here to verify which kits they are referring to before I place an order.
  It is SO FRUSTRATING  that companies that depend on  customer sales, seem to not give a chit if they sell anything or not,,,,,,!!!

  OH,,by the way,,,Ken,,,Hope you are feelin better,,,how are your treatments going,,???

I've had very good luck with after market starters,bought one off ebay for my Oliver
1550 diesel for $120 w/free shipping starts the 1550 better than the original ever did
and its been over a year I've been using it with no problems.Also have gotten the 'cheapie'
after market starters for Cub Cadet diesel and a JD 445 all were fine.Deere wanted
$430 for a new starter ebay one was $52 free shipping.

I had a Delco Remy starter rebuilt for one of our John Deere tractors locally. When I went to pick it up they told me they had a hard time finding parts for it because they were obsolete. They ended up getting them from a guy who buys out old shops.

 If it were my starter, I would take it apart and see what is wrong with it... and then go get the parts to rebuild it...
 But if you don't want to mess with it, have it rebuilt by a good shop, it will be cheaper... or it use to be anyways. after market starters seem to be of lighter windings etc.
  
 Just be glad its not a starter for an M5 MM Diesel... obsolete...

AGCO remanufactured is $298.67 exchange with a 12 month warranty. As several know I do work in a AGCO dealer. When I read some of the post how some dealers gouge and how some have no respect for there customers it makes me sick.
Albert