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wekracer 
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 Topic: L2 skip tooth cyl bars in wheat
Posted: 16 Jun 2015 at 2:57pm |
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We are getting ready to cut wheat and I would like to use the L2 this year instead of the F2. It has skip tooth cylinder bars. I know the question was asked a while back but I can't remember the settings. Seems like it was normal spacing 1/8" and run higher rpms. Any advice would be appreciated.
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MACK
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Posted: 16 Jun 2015 at 10:12pm |
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They will work, will need all the concave. MACK
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Posted: 16 Jun 2015 at 10:18pm |
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Any idea on rpms
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Posted: 16 Jun 2015 at 10:42pm |
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RUN AS FAST AS POSSIBLE , until you start seeing grain cracks , then back off speed.
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Posted: 16 Jun 2015 at 10:58pm |
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And we assume you are talking about hard surfaced wide spaced rasp bar cylinder bars...
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Posted: 17 Jun 2015 at 6:06am |
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Yes. Every other tooth is ground off the bars.
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Posted: 17 Jun 2015 at 10:45am |
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does the skip tooth give you more capacity, less cracking or what other purpose? I have ran into that before but do not remember the advantages. I have to run around 5/16 to 3/8 clearance on the E so what is different to run only 1/8 clearance? will that work better to not crack beans or was that done mostly for corn?
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Posted: 17 Jun 2015 at 6:06pm |
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I start at an 1/8 of an inch and somewhere around 1250-1300 RPM. Adjust accordingly after that. Increases capacity a lot on my L2
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Posted: 17 Jun 2015 at 9:39pm |
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5/16-3/8 is too much clearance for any thing on a E. 1/4 max. MACK
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Posted: 18 Jun 2015 at 2:52pm |
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well Mack, I always want to think that your advice is spot on but how would you harvest fescue seed without plugging up, oats without hulling, beans without splitting or wheat without cracking set on no more than 1/4 inch? I have been running E's for many years and combined my share of clover so I know when the gauges are set right on the cylinder. I remove the cylinder drive chain and turn the cylinder by hand and adjust clearance just above the click for clover and the mark is right. I intend on harvesting my seed to plant or sell without dockage on cracks and splits and 1/4 will crack dry wheat. I just wanted to know about capacity change and more so a lack of cracking grain with altered cylinder bars as I am planning on harvesting special seed beans. It should not matter if you are running an A C F G etc the clearance set the same any machine should have the same results? or not? this old dog is still open to new tricks but has not forgotten the old ones either. can someone please answer my original question? do you run less clearance with skip tooth bars and will that avoid cracking the grain. I might have missed out on that part. thanks
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Posted: 18 Jun 2015 at 4:30pm |
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I have great results in wheat with 1/8" on my EIII and 3 channel concaves in 1-3-5. Mike
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Posted: 18 Jun 2015 at 4:36pm |
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any one use the concave filler bars in there L's and M's for wheat?
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Posted: 18 Jun 2015 at 4:39pm |
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We run tighter cylinder clearance on our L3 with wide spaced bars, they will definitely increase capacity especially in tougher beans or weeds but I don't know if you would see less cracking.
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Posted: 18 Jun 2015 at 6:28pm |
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On my M2 I have wide spaced Ausherman bars and run about 1/8 inch clearance, also have 2 concave filler bars in, In soft white wheat I find it cracks less with tighter clearance and slower Cylinder RPMs, I run it faster in hard red wheat because it does not crack as easy.
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Posted: 18 Jun 2015 at 8:36pm |
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We always run 1/8 in for wheat 1/4 in beans and 1/2 - 5/8 in corn depending on cobs with the F2 and L2 but I've never done wheat with the L
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Posted: 18 Jun 2015 at 10:43pm |
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When you get above 1/4", the material will follow the cylinder around causing more cracking, plus wears the crown off the cylinder bars. MACK
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