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Forestgnome 
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 Topic: Hauler for HD11B?
Posted: 12 Jun 2012 at 5:14pm |
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I was wondering what you think would be a good older truck/trailer setup for hauling an HD11B dozer? I've been seeing some good deals on the following: Ford F8 (pretty old, but would sure look good), International 1700, Ford F600. Don't have much money so I'm watching older trucks for sale. I would want something safe, not just the minimum. I know little about hauling in this weight range.
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LoggerLee
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Posted: 12 Jun 2012 at 11:34pm |
I've got a 76' Freightliner Cabover, runs good, needs some work, it's not pretty. $2500
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Coke-in-MN
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Posted: 13 Jun 2012 at 6:14am |
Depending on what kind of trailer you are going to use, tag trailer or low boy 5th wheel. Brakes are the one side and power to go is the other . I used a tandem dump truck to pull tri-axle lowboy. My old White 6 cylinder gas engine with 5 X 4 Trany would do fine on back roads but was hard to maintain minimum speed on parts of freeway, GMC with 427 with RT613 pulled the 37,000# excavator but again the same problem of top speed- both with the tag trailer. Air brakes are a must unless it's a new disc brake unit, trailer brakes are another . As whatever you use the DOT inspection will be required on both power unit and trailer, as well as Class A -CDL for the driver.
Edited by Coke-in-MN - 13 Jun 2012 at 6:16am
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michale34
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Posted: 13 Jun 2012 at 11:13am |
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my dad had a 69 chevy c65 with a 427 tandem axle one drive axle one air tag axle with air brakes with a tandem axle lowboy to pull his hd11 and he had to get a permit every time he moved it because of the blade with.
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Coke-in-MN
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Posted: 13 Jun 2012 at 12:12pm |
Weight range is set by axle bridging and load weight transfer . On a tag trailer figure you transfer 20% of load on pintle-hitch from trailer to the pull vehicle . in most areas the maximum load on a tandem axle is 34,000 IF the tires are rated for that . On a single axle truck 18,000 on the drive axle and rating of the front at mfg rate. A F8 would probably have a 8,000 front axle, then depending on tire size. A highway tractor is limited to 12,000 maximum on steer axle. A single unit like a dump truck can go up to 18,000 on the steer. I moved my CAT D6-9U on my tri-axle with 3 single tire axle running 9.50x16.5 tires figuring the weight transfer to the truck , but never got stopped or scaled it to see if it was legal . Then with the 9' blade I never permitted it either so was lucky.
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michale34
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Posted: 13 Jun 2012 at 2:20pm |
LOL I pulled a lot of things and im sure glad I didnt get stopped to see if I was legal.I pulled a d69u on a tag trailer using a single axle dump truck with hydrolic brakes on the truck and a hydrolic setup onthe trailer that the force from stopping worked the brakes .I pulled it one sunday morning i did a lot more preying that day then i did in church .
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ac_sd
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Posted: 13 Jun 2012 at 3:49pm |
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Unless you plan to move it a lot, it might be safer and cheaper in the long run to hire a local trucker witha lowbed, you are looking at up to 28-30,000#.
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DMiller
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Posted: 16 Jun 2012 at 4:43am |
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My 7G only goes at 23,000#, hired a hauler for the 120 mile one way trip and was just under $600. I can't buy license or insurance that cheap and as we do not intend to ever move it again it worked out for us.
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Posted: 18 Jun 2012 at 4:38pm |
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Last 11B I looked at had a coplete with blade weight of 41,000#
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ac_sd
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Posted: 20 Jun 2012 at 6:00pm |
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My HD_11S weighs about 29000# with st blade, ripper and canopy..... a later model HD-11B would weigh a little more.... I just scrapped an HD-20 Push Cat that weighed close to 42000#.
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