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    Posted: 25 Mar 2024 at 12:02am
So... There's plenty of times I go around without anything protecting my noggin, but when it's sun, rain, wind, snow, hail, bird droppings, low clearance... I put on a hat.

As time goes by, and the hair gets thinner (and yeah, it's all grey now), I'm covering up the top more and more.

I'm betting there's darned few on this forum that, even if not wearing it all the time, venture around somewhere without something to provide some elemental protection to the space between the sun and (what's left of our) grey matter.

Like any other guy, there's some things I like in a hat, and there's other things I don't care for, and that is what determines what style.  Baseball caps are favored by many, but I never found them to be all that beneficial to me... I like a wider brim, full around.  I like it to be heavy enough to not flop around, and tough enough to fend off lighter objects, and reduce the energy of smaller ones.

Two-and-something decades back, I was in some East Coast town on business... had some down time on a Sunday, when I went past a millinery (a hat shop), and saw a rack of what appeared to be a quality covering of a style that made sense.  It was a cold, wet day in the fall, and keeping my skull dry, getting the rain off my neck and out of my face was high on my desires... but the 'company standard' headcovering that was assigned for this project (training at a rail facility) offered no functional comfort, only a little bump protection.

I walked out of that millinary about a hundred bucks lighter, with a fine piece of well-chosen canvas, worked into shape by some Canadian hands.  

What a great hat...  

I wore it for a LONG time, eventually, It got really worn, so I decided to exercise the 'lifetime' warranty that I THOUGHT I'd never need.  Frankly, I was willing to BUY a new one, but when I called, they seemed like they had it all together.

So they required me to cut the top out of the existing brim, and send them a picture with the warranty number on the crown in permanent marker.  I did that.

After doing all that, and sending 'em picture of the tag and a verification of size and type, they sent me back a message saying they 'no longer made that model', and the 'nearest type was...'

Which was a somewhat less expensive one that what I had...  and in looking, they didn't have one AS NICE... and if they DID, I would have offered to gladly pay the difference...  but they didn't.

So the replacement hat arrived about two weeks later.

I've worn it less than a dozen times in three years... and each time, I was disappointed.  It's flimsy, cold, and uncomfortable, nothing like the original.  Not made in Canada... it's made in China... and the heavy, durable canvas hat I wanted... they don't offer anymore.

SO...  for those of you that have, and love the older "Made In Canada" Tilley...  I recommend against ever calling in lifetime warranty replacement.  Have it repaired.  The replacement you get will be a typical junk import.
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Haven't really worn a cap or hat since high school myself. Always had to wear a hard hard or such on jobsites while working. I do however wear a sock hat during the cold months as my old ears don't like the cold so well.

My favorite sock hat kinda gave up in the wash after almost 25 years this past winter. Got to have another made as this one didn't come from any department store but was rather hand made by a lady who was still making/selling them at our local yearly town sale event, (which is dying). This one was made from wool coming from their raised sheep with a leather band sewn into the part that encompasses your forehead and ears. Very warm I'll add to this and worth every dollar paid for it back on the late 1990's. The fit is more like a "pilot's cap" rather than conventional sock hat. Some would find restrictive to hearing as I elected no optional "ear holes" in the leather band, but quality is very good.

Last fall she told me this was the last year for her and retiring. Fortunately, her daughter and son in law are continuing the business without compromise to quality. I'll get them to measure me up and gladly pay the $50.00 for a new replacement on par with the original. 

 
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Dermatologist suggested I wear a wide brim hat. I do try but prefer a ball cap. Do wear the wide brim when I'm on my D 15, mostly. Thanks
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I have a wide brim hat that I got at "Sunday Afternoon" on line... found a flyer years ago at my dermatologist office and ordered this hat. They are a bit expensive, but what today is not more than before. they have just about any style you would want.  helps keep the sun off of my face and ears, which for me is a good thing cause I go to the skin doc every 6 months to get 'short shots of frost bite' in order to take care of the '''not yet cancer spots'''...
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Generally don’t wear a hat, until my hair gets that dreaded ‘pillow hair look’ in the mornings. I shower at night before bed, thus I don’t shower in the mornings, once I get a haircut (3/8” all around) the hats are put in the closet. I am outside as much as I can, love the sunshine. I am Norwegian/German but, by May I resemble someone from Arabia, or India from my deep tan. Haven’t had ‘sunburn’ in years, take 10,000 IU of vitamin D3 everyday, which is very helpful for skin health.
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Yeah Floyd, my dermatologist always says that everything looks good and then she wears my head out with her 'ray gun'
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Ball caps leave your ears exposed to thee sun and if you still have hair and leave it long enough to cover your ears they push your hair down and uncover your ears.
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Yeah Dan , and I hate getting the tops of my ears zapped ! 
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Dave, I saw that one coming! I have never seen a 'life time' warranty actually work out. Ran int similar issue with Duluth firehose pants. Ya, they replaced them, with lesser quality and now they don't ever offer the warranty. The originals were really good though!

Anywho, worn a hat most of my life, primarily baseball cap. As of late i have several that I wear according to circumstances. For dress/casual, I wear a plaid newsboy hat. If it is real sunny, a baseball cap to keep the sun out of my eyes, and, if I am to be out in the rain, (and I have no idea what it is called, cant even remember where I got it) a wide brimmed, canvas hat that was water proof for the first few years of it's life, but now i need to spray it after laundering. Probably should never have washed it, but, at some point it became necessary. And, in the winter a 'watch cap'.
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I have a suede western style hat that my daughter gave me years ago and is my favorite one for cold weather. Even though it is worn and beat up ⬆ wear it to church and leave my Sunday-go to-meeting Stetson at home. I have several western straw hats for summer use, also have a number of ball caps that I wear. My hearing is pretty much gone (especially high frequency thanks to jet engines) and I use Bluetooth ear protectors with a ball cap when I am on the tractor.

Most of the made in China stuff is junk but people buy it because it is cheap. We need to get our manufacturing back over here before it is too late.
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Thanks for the replies, guys, and Hugh- AMEN-  we NEED to get that manufacturing back.

Most canvas hats need to be waxed lightly to shed water after they've been washed, and it's not a difficult thing to do, just a maintenance routine like anything else.  When I was teaching at railroads, I had a long canvas duck work overcoat that had the reflective trim and company markings, it was a quality made piece that had very little lining (just a little from the shoulders into the sleeves, so that it would easily slide in and out of over regular clothing) and it was made in layered overlap so it could breathe.  I could throw it on over a T-shirt and jeans, and it would keep me dry and not overheat during summer rain, and if I had several layers, I'd be warm and dry under that, too... it hung low enough so that wind and rain wouldn't get to my waistline while working on signalling equipment.  An excellent all-around work-coat, but my client required me to turn it over to them after the contract was complete.  I wanted to BUY one (with no company logos) for my own comfort, but they wouldn't sell me one, as they were concerned that a person could have the logo copied, and then sneak past security... Cry  All I wanted was a nice coat, but the manufacturer wouldn't sell one to me, either...

Anyway, when I get back home from this trip, I'll take pix of my preferred thermonuclear protection and post 'em, in hopes that someone knows a milinary artisan that handmakes something of comparable style, weight, and quality, and see if I can monetarily persuade them to fashion my new favorite headgear.


Edited by DaveKamp - 25 Mar 2024 at 9:04pm
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I always wear a hat, except in the house, (one application of Dad’s hand cured that forever). I have 3 oil skin, Aussie style hats from Outback Trading Company, one solid one for winter, one old beat up mesh one for everyday, and one nice mesh one for public travel. They have a wide brim and I much prefer them over the cowboy hats I used to wear. I’d hate to guess how many straw hats I disked under as a kid, finally resorted to baseball style then.
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My Grandfather always told me never hire a man that smokes a pipe and wears a straw hat! If he isn't lighting his pipe,he's chasing his hat,and won't be working!
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Originally posted by klinemar klinemar wrote:

My Grandfather always told me never hire a man that smokes a pipe!

I vowed to never work with anyone that smoked a pipe after my first job off the farm. Working at a grain elevator, every time hard work was to begin, Ed would start the process of filling and lighting his pipe.
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Originally posted by ACinSC ACinSC wrote:

Dermatologist suggested I wear a wide brim hat. I do try but prefer a ball cap. Do wear the wide brim when I'm on my D 15, mostly. Thanks

Those people are so terrified of the sun it amazes me. Had to go to one for quite a while for my hands. Long story short, finally got past that and haven't had to go back in probably 5 tears now. Anyway, that lady was so pale she looked like two minutes on direct sunlight exposure and she would burst into flames!

I wear a hat when I'm out. The exception is in the summertime when it's good and hot. Hat just soaks up sweat and gets nasty so no hat. I get a real nice tan on my head and go on with life.
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I never go anywhere witout a hat usally a ball acp but I have a wide brimmed hat I wear outside in the summer to prtect my ears. An hardly ever wear it in side a building because of my father's raising and the Uncle Sam, cause I never liked pusss ups.
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Those people are so terrified of the sun it amazes me.

Yeah, not 'terrified' of sun so much as... they see the results of those who are most seriously affected by it.

Some peoples' genetics are susceptible to carcinoma, and frequently, the susceptibility increases rapidly with age.  My maternal grandfather wore a baseball cap for much of his farming, but moved to a larger full-brim hat (frequently a straw hat) as he got older.  His skin cancer went largely unnoticed and unattended for a decade.  By the time he had someone look into it, it was far enough along to be a significant problem elsewhere... and they worked him over to get as much out as they could.  Eventually, it took him, and probably 15 years too early.

My Dad, in contrast, spent most of his working life inside an office, but spent his weekday evenings and weekends on the water, or working in the yard.  He has had plenty of spots removed from his head, neck, and ears.  It isn't so much the 'amount' of time you spend under solar exposure, as much as what one's genetic disposition to UV light.  In my Dad's case, it was the UV light produced by fluorescent lamps of his office.

My exposure is not only from working outdoors (my occupation involves a fair amount of outdoor time), but also welding. 

But suffice to say, I'm more comfortable working outdoors during a cool night, and I remove the hat for that.  When I was young, I fished off a dock of a lake, and found out what it meant to 'sunburn my eyes'... blinded me for about four days... and since then, I've been extra careful not to put myself in that situation.

My favorite canvas duck hat, however, is usually protecting me against cold, wind, rain.  Today was a windy, rainy day on my jobsite, and my bean was covered by an inexpensive canvas wide-brim with a neck-flap... a very welcome shield against what would have otherwise blown right down my neck, under my raincoat, and saturated my shirt.Wink
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