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steve(ill) 
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 Posted: 17 Mar 2022 at 9:23am |
US has cut green house gases by reducing COAL from 50% to 20% and upping Natural Gas from 20% to 40%...NUKE has stayed the same for years..
Solar, Batteries and Wind still are WANNA BEES....... the technology just is not there yet.
Edited by steve(ill) - 17 Mar 2022 at 9:24am
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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DMiller
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Posted: 18 Mar 2022 at 5:20am |
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US Nuke is on a down hill spiral just getting started to die out. What I find rather funny is China is constructing 4 new Dirt Burners for ever One retired in the US as well India and Pakistan nearly all of the Asia and Africa Region nations are STILL buying/Building new Fossil stations INCLUDING Russia. For every pound of Carbon removed from the environment in the US, 2-3 are added somewhere else, the CC myth of Lowering Free Carbon in the environment is just that, a myth.
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Clay
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Posted: 18 Mar 2022 at 8:13am |
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GREEN ENERGY SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Ray54
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Posted: 18 Mar 2022 at 1:09pm |
 How much electric "juice" could you cram into a shipping container?????? The NO BRAINS bunch sinking the Land of Fruits and Nuts is shutting off the last nuke power plant here in 2024/25. It makes 10% of what is now used. And they want to only sell electric cars by 2035.  Good thing I still have a horse.
So they must  know how to bring "juice" in from Chinana so way I don't know about.
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tadams(OH)
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Posted: 18 Mar 2022 at 1:12pm |
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The power plant that our electric company is involved in washes the coal and exhaust stack put off steam and no smoke.
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Morpar55
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Location: Indiana
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Posted: 18 Mar 2022 at 1:27pm |
I kind of think the elected officials (nicest term I can use) in this country have lost sight of how things really work. They feel if they say "Do it" it will just magically happen. While I think we need to be good stewards of our planet, we need to look at ALL of the information before jumping to a decision. This entire thread brings up a lot of good points, but getting the idiots in charge (whoops, I slipped there) to listen to views which are different from their own any more is a lost cause. And it seems as though a lot of their followers believe living in a city is the best way to live too. Man, I don't get it! Before my father-in-law passed away years ago we would go up there and visit, usually staying the night. Seems like there was always so much noise from the trains, and sirens, and loud cars, and..... No thanks! I like it quiet where I live. And if things get a little too stupid I can always go out and drop a deer for the meat.
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1959 AC D17 Gas with some updates
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DMiller
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Posted: 18 Mar 2022 at 4:47pm |
Just Ask One, That little Switch Thingy on the wall, just Flip it and a Power Station ramps up JUST to feed YOUR Lights!!!
Are clueless Twits
Edited by DMiller - 18 Mar 2022 at 4:47pm
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jaybmiller
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Posted: 18 Mar 2022 at 6:37pm |
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just take ALL of them(NO smartphones allowed !!), to the bottom of a real mine,say THEN 'flip the switch'. See how fast THEY try to grab their smartphones to use as flashlights......
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3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)
Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water
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exSW
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Posted: 18 Mar 2022 at 7:26pm |
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A good team of horses will out work and out last any electric tractor for some time to come.
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Learning AC...slowly
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jaybmiller
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Posted: 19 Mar 2022 at 6:17am |
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Given the choice, I'd prefer an electric 'G' to two horses...
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3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)
Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water
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DMiller
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Posted: 19 Mar 2022 at 6:43am |
Problems with Horses, it takes ACRES of feed to keep them healthy, they will work until die unless team with a Mule, and they must be worked incessantly to keep them working.
Great Uncle and Aunt Farm was originally Horse Power, planted 80 acres each season hayed another 40 acres and rotated crops across 160 acres leaving 40 acres fallow alternating annually out of the 160. Farm supported ten milk cows, four Draft Horses and two Mules, chickens and pigs. But that was ALL it could support as to that 200 acres. Machinery, horses, feed and labor was shared across the other seven Family related Farms where crops were alternated to keep a variety among them, gardens similarly and harvested animals also shared. Ben and Mabel delivered five cans of Milk and one of Cream to a hauler every few days and sold eggs for pennies per dozen also harvested daily from a rather large brood house. None of the grains or feed stocks were generally sold outright unless the end of season left enough to peddle. Fertilizers were not bought, but supplied by the Stock.
Same farm ground today is rotated Corn Beans Wheat on all of the acres, the livestock Long Gone, to return to subsistence Horse Drawn farming results in the same levels of deliveries as in the past and less production overall. Cannot have same levels of production today going back to the Old Ways even with the new seeds or crop types without commercial fertilizers as manure will only give up so much.
The other issue stands alone as to stock, MUST be attended Daily, day in/day out by someone, either the owner or family nearby, are NO vacation days if no one else to help.
Edited by DMiller - 19 Mar 2022 at 6:45am
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