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    Posted: 29 Oct 2018 at 7:23pm
We bought our little place back quite a few years ago, built a barn set some new fence, met a great bunch of our ageing neighbors. Lovely farms, old history and the little spot in the road we sit Little Berger MO.

Time has a habit of catching up to us, do not know if many here can relate but as it stands in four years we have developed four new neighbors, an old neighbor passed where his son took over his home and farm, the son's son moved into the previous residence just down the county road and is now a part of our little community, a returning soldier has built his new house and a school coach with his family theirs. Leases have traded, fields have changed even the animals are different these days. Our quiet seemingly empty block of space has two new homes besides ours, the neighbor across our valley has sold and the old farm there is to be renovated much as ours with more new life.


My old frame worked long enough to get the house, the fences, the machines and the vast majority of work done but is slowly abandoning me, too many aches, too little sleep from those aches, too many beatings as a young man again built over time at work taking toll I am having issues paying. I hate to think it but it may be coming to time I have to leave this little slice of heaven as I find it ever harder to 'get it done'. Am I alone in these thoughts? We may have to sell and retreat to something less active, less demanding, less expense financially and bodily.
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Depends on what you want and what needs taken care of........... Forget 80% of the "projects" and just concentrate and using the old AC to cut the grass every week. Hire a younger guy to do the snow plowing, and in a few years let him do the grass also. If the house is decent small size, and ONE FLOOR, then you can make it work... I know a few who have sold and moved to town... know a few who never will... im only 65 years old, but already trying to plan ahead to stay.
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I had been contemplating moving to a less strenuous lifestyle.  When I recently went thru a cancer scare, I figured it was time to go.  Well the cancer came out and I am clean and now I'm enjoying the chores and projects more and more everyday!   And if I don't feel like doing anything, I don't!
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Thanks guys. I have views as to both directions as well, watched my Grandmother die by inches until 101 where we all worked incessantly to keep her in her home until she passed, same for the wife's parents but the work to keep them there we cannot expect as have no kids to do so and even if did I could not now ask them to after having done it myself. My Dad was a widower, Mom left us early where he had to make it on his own basically for seventeen years, he actually checked himself into a Assisted Living Center rather than be a burden upon his boys.

I guess in general I had delusion of grandeur by building a new home late in life, I pushed the magic line of pain and killing myself trying to save money doing as much as I could to get it built still seeing myself as that 30something young man full of pizz and vinegar that Could get it all done. Actually ended up hurting myself in the process that will not repair now. Had planned on staying here and enjoying the quiet life in a four bedroom house we could entertain family and friends on weekends or holidays, house is too big, we have WAY too much 'stuff' and I keep looking at the pile as if to consider we should have Downsized a LOT rather than having built this. Hindsight can be quite a eye opener.


All our close kin and long term friends are busy raising/caring for their own families, we see them occasionally but they do not come to stay or to be entertained or just visit, life moved on around our big ideas.
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The part of downsizing I think about most is the accumulation of "stuff" I have.  After Dad died, we had a house full of 50 years of "stuff" from that location, plus their accumulations from around the world during his military career and travels.
I think we all watch Antique Road Show or American Pickers and think we should keep stuff so it will be "valuable" for our kids or ourselves someday.  However, I also see that collectibles change, and the old china, "Occupied Japan" items, dolls, bottles, furniture, etc, that were once highly sought after are no longer searched by the younger people, and there is a peak as to when to get rid of stuff.   
After emptying Dad's place, I've changed my collecting habits and am starting to get rid of things now so I don't have to make my kids fret over keeping all of my treasures (which they don't want, but hate to get rid of because of memories).
Keep the family pictures (label the people and locations so they will know who/what they are) and other meaningful items, but sell those beanie babies, longaberger baskets, china dolls, and other dust collectors before they become worthless.  It makes more room for storing the tools, tractor stuff, toy tractors, and the other really important stuff like that.  Someday they will need those 38 screwdrivers and that elusive 10mm socket the has disappeared.
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Kick back and don't dwell on it.  i m scaling way back.  Burning my last pile of wood this winter, even sold the log splitter to make sure.

75 hit me like a ton of bricks when it comes to mobility and doing work.

make the best of what you got.  Sit out on the front porch more in good weather.

My thoughts anyway.
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I have felt the slow down with the wife going through chemo and radiation this year, can't believe how much it has change my feelings. I have had the same thoughts and wondered how many more years I will be able to keep this place up with 5 acres to mow and I planted a lots of flowers.
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Yeah,,,I think most of us are sort of in the same boat,,,, and I'm wonderin "why" we thought some things were so important to "Save" for the kids and Grand kids. My garage is so full of all kinds of "Stuff" and the wife was absolutely positive that our first Granddaughter would be lookin forward to all them toys and Dolls she would buy her when she was growin up. There are at least 60-70 of those talkin dolls stored in 10 of those plastic tubs in MY garage,,,,!!! those dang dolls were like $80-$125 each,,!!The last time I asked our Granddaughter if she wanted them,,,and after bout a 3 minute pause,,,she says,,"GrandPa,,where would I keep them? Go ahead and sell em if you can but don't tell Nana I didn't want them",,,,,,
With the wife being wheel chair bound,,I doubt she will ever step foot in MY GARAGE again,,but I ain't takin that chance,,,,WinkWink 
 Dave H,,,that is funny bout your log splitter,,,I quit that chit several years ago too,,,, Clap
 DMiller,,,I thought we were the only'ist ones that didn't get too much family company,,,,Wink  The wife made me put down some wood flooring in the two spare bedrooms,,,for "when the kids come visit" ,,,,I don't know why we always thought we were the ones they would go visit,,,we never thought bout THEIR friends bein more important,,,,,OH well,,guess I'll do like ole Dave and go sit on the porch,,,,,LOLLOL
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I have too much stuff the wife has even more too much stuff. Not looking forward to slowing down but its going to happen. At mid 60's I can see that in 10 years our life and health is going to change more. 
When we first moved here we didn't have many close neighbors. But that was 30 years ago. Now have 7-8 new houses on our road. Would I like to have more land and more elbow room? Maybe, but would have to work harder to keep it maintianed too!
Good luck with your decisions! Not easy to change our ways! I keep trying to pick away at several projects per day. Even thinking of new ones. Brain still thinks I can doo the same things as when I was 20! NOT!
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Slowed down a lot this past year and have been giving some thought to cleaning out some things I have collected over the years and will probably never use. Going to start bringing my granddaughter up to date of some of the family heirlooms I have such as my grandfather's S&W .44spl that he carried when he delivered mail in a horse and buggy. Like most of you I have "stuff" packed away that will go into an estate sale if I don't get rid of it first.
Just an old country boy saved by the grace of God.
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My mind keeps on writing checks that my body can't cash. 
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As a 50 something I can relate to the neighbor part. We love 10 miles from town but have a country store where we all congregate. We’ve lost most all the good ole boy neighbors and hardly know those who move in to those places. This summer the country store sold to a very young couple from the city in California. You can imagine how that went.
No one will want my tractors. I sold off some and just kept what I really want.
I now only buy tools that I think I will be able to use way in to my retirement for a little extra money and boredom control.
I can’t imagine ever not living here but with my mom getting upon the years I often wonder how I will feel if she were gone?
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Big money has moved on Hermann, big family names with money are buying up the business district of town to 'Develop' it beyond the small social area it was well known for. I hate to see that happen as occurred at Lake Ozark, Branson, other small tourist spots across the state with good money results but BAD local population results. We have had four owners to what was Lindey's Diner now known as Hermann Diner, they all came to cut the fat dollar and end up selling off when the revenues do not add up against high priced loans.

Labor shortage has hit here pretty hard with the available willing to work hard crowd playing musical chairs to payroll and benefit changes while those that won't step in for a few days to weeks only to drop off and re-enter Unemployment Insurance roles, these are no longer met with disregard and many are being challenged. Service suffers so too the reputation of town and town business.
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has anybody experienced a complete auction including realestate
while they were still living? always wondered how that would go
mentally and financially
if I ever thought about moving I would have an auction as is no way I could move all my junk
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My folks moved onto there forty acre piece of paradise when I was one year old. I thought it was a great place to grow up. Four miles away from a town of 100+/- people. 20 miles to a town of a thousand people, and 50+ miles to a town of much size at all. Guess I didn't realize our hill billy status at the time , lol. Fast forward to 3 years ago, aging parents were a little too far away from medical facilities, and 40 acres was a little too much to handle for them, so into a two bedroom apartment in town is where they went. Luckily, dad had the in-sight to start getting rid of stuff years in advance, but none-the-less, 50 years and 40 acres of accumulation is a little tough to get into a two bedroom apartment. Throw on top of that, at the same time they were in the moving process, my brother was dying of cancer. Terrible times for sure. Obviously, losing my brother was the biggy, but "the home place" being sold and gone forever kind of sucked, too. I know my Dad was really torn up over having to leave the place, but he knew it had to be done. My Mom couldn't get off the place fast enough, and that kind of up-set me. In the long run, we all know it was best, but has me thinking, that even at 55 years old, I'd better get started getting some dead projects gone and much more, because I know my turn is next. Darrel
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My Grandmother was smart, she collected minimal but did have the boxes of old clothes she intended to repair and reuse, loads of mis-match glass ware pots and pans, not much of anything really but stuff. Had a sale when she had been moved out, listened to the auctioneer as to STAYING AWAY during the sale, made her a couple thousand dollars and most of her stuff was someone else's. We hauled off trash or to the house the rest where I have steady reduced what we accumulated from her.


Dad never was a collector, he had total disregard to physical thigs and used them as intended until use no longer there then either gave away or trashed. We gave my Mom's collectibles mostly to grand kids who would take them, I have a few odds and ends but they too are destined for other hands.


Furnishings can be sold, discarded to GoodWill or trash makes no never mind to me. We get to that fateful point of choice I will call the auctioneer to set up the sales, excess household first, tools next, excess machines I have already promished my nephew are his as have been written off already.


Wife and Sis in law would not stay out of their Mom's house during the sale, tore them up all day as people 'molested' their parent's things, had to remind her that her Parents were no longer there and they did no longer care of physical attachments to stuff, I got THAT look for those comments. Still have shelves of stuff collecting dust the two of them 'Could NOT Be without as they are so memorable' yet collect dust in the dark in storage in the basement much as were at their parent's home. Sad what people put values to that actually are not there.

I can relate to the other noted wake up calls from all here, BOTH my brothers, one older the other younger have had Prostate cancer, the Aggressive types and had to have them removed, i too have had repair surgeries to some levels of satisfaction and not so do feel the limitation of my remaining years as tentative as well short. We all address our mortality in some fashion as we age to a point we know are failing to keep up.


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 Yep,,,The world has been changing around us and we never looked up from our perceived priorities and projects to take notice,,,,, The younger generation just does not place any importance on the things that we did and do.  But,,,to keep the peace,,,I keep my thoughts to myself and bemoan of the things gone by,,,,,,,,
 When our youngest Son got divorced,,he never tried to stop the ex from taking what she wanted til I stepped in. Everything that was left has been in MY GARAGE and I been giving it away when I can and he keeps tellin me to give or throw it all away,,,,,,,They just don't seem to want hang on to any memories,,,but then again divorce don'e leave any good memories does it? 
 We have two of those big walmart plastic tubs plumb full of pics from day one of startin our family,,,we don't even bring em out anymore when they do come visit cause they will look at em for 5-10 minutes but thats it,,,,,Wife just can't seem to understand why,,,,,
Guess i'll do like ole Dave and go sit on the porch,,,,,,,sigh
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All this makes it seem like a really sad time in our lives. I guess it is? We have lost our youth, our kids are different and the future is unknown, Big decisions are not easy and some folks just cant make decisions, or don't want too. They just keep skipping through life as if nothing has changed. But it has and it will. Some of us do plan better than others. I remember my dads place was a disaster. Stuff was still in the same drawers from 1953 when we cleaned his place out in 1999. On the other hand my uncle had cleaned out stuff in his attic and was very proud that there was only three small boxes of stuff left for the family to take care of. There is no right or wrong way to, hate to say it but "wind down your life" but thats really what we are talking about. Guess you better just do what your comfortable with and try to keep moving. 
I always joke to the wife and family that they will have a good auction at our place. I have even picked a young auctioneer. Hoping we don't need him for another 30 years!:)
I don't have the answers, but at this point I don't want to give up playing in the big kids, big toy, sandbox! 
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For a lot of folks it is not all that easy to dispose of stuff. Goodwill, Salvation Army, Disabled American Vets, etc. have become picky at what they will take and how they will take it. Used to be some places would clear out the place for free and keep the profits from selling said stuff, not any more. Dumpsters are expensive and most have limits on  what can be put in em.
I see tons of this same stuff offered for free on Craig's list, only so many people want old used/worn stuff, and collectible's are not the same anymore. I don't care to have strangers to my house looking at my stuff and my handicaps. I try to give to friends &  family, then just break it up and slough it off bit by bit into the weekly garbage pickup. OK I'm all worn out just thinking about it.
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For some reason this thread hit a spot with me. So today I made a list of the toys and a list of the syrup making tools that I have accumulated over the years. I was a little surprised actually by the ammount of things I have got. This list is the big items that might bring some money at a auction. If I sold all of it I could then start fresh and accumulate new things and re-invent my life too! Might be a fun project. The alternative is to keep all this stuff and the wife or kids would have to dispose of it. Might be interesting to be at your own auction? Plus I could turn my sugarhouse into the storage area/ shop I need too.
I printed and set the list aside, and told the wife she just needs to put the auctioneers number on the paper, and my stuff is ready to go down the road!Smile
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I'll be 70 next year, gonna have a dozer in and clear out 1/4 mile of fence. Gonna put it in new next spring. Hoping to teach a couple of grandsons how to drive staples. Good luck with your aches and pains.
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Hubert, love your phrase,  "My mind keeps on writing checks that my body can't cash"
My word guys,  I just turned 75 and can relate to just about every comment made and jolts the memories.  I`m at the point I have to discard "stuff" or build another garage.  Most the "stuff" I have is too good to throw away,  but can`t give it away cause nobody would want it.


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You guys have a way of putting thing.
     Write checks the body cannot cash!!!!Ouch
     To good to throw awayWink, but can't give it away cause nobody wants it!!!Cry


I know we can all list this good "stuff" and we can trade it back and forth. We will really get things moving in this country with truck going back and forth with are goodies. It might even help global warming for those that been getting snowed up.


So Creston you better hurry if you want any of the 1960 Chevy 2 tons I offer youLOL. Some of the old guys get fast if they think somebody else may want it.Wink


I guess I am lucky in I have a son and son in law that both like old stuff and may keep some of my treasures after I am gone.
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One nice thing about the city folks moving in to the neighborhood is that they call the County about once a week to get the dirt road graded.

My Dad auctioned his tools and equipment when he no longer used them.  A few years later he did the household when he moved in with his girlfriend.  If any of us kids wanted anything, we bought it at the auctions.

I plan on doing the same, or have instructed the wife to do it, if I'm no longer around.  Auctions are great.  Everything is gone in one day!  No fighting, no bickering, no ugly family resentment, and money in the pocket.

It is better to have a coupe auctions if you have lots of stuff.  If you get a check for more than 10k, you gotta pay taxes on it! 

I plan on starting to sell my tractors and some equipment in the next year or two.  I sure hope the market turns around on old tractors by then.  Good rear rims and good useable tires on the tractors on my tagline if you think you may be interested.

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It isn't easy trying to sell anything, I've had a UC that I can't crank anymore and no one is interested in it and a few other tractors that I haven't even listed because of that.
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Remember it all just "STUFF".  Get rid of it or redistribute it in the family. The important stuff IS the family. 
 
After dad and mom passed I was left with cleaning up the their farm and going through everything as my sister was of zero help due to her own mobility issues.  It took me 10 years of visits to the farm to slowly work through everything to make sure it was not something that was sentimental.  This also included my late brothers stuff and my late aunt and uncles stuff.  I hauled scrap metal off, burned piles of junk and burned down a couple of buildings but it was not all doom and gloom for me as it was time well spent on the family farm.  I guess my only suggestion is to try to deal with the STUFF now and don't put that burden on the kids or family if possible.  
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