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Rod Yowell 
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Posted: 17 Jun 2012 at 8:11pm |
I succeeded in my splitting my WD45 and replacing the torque tube, a rebuilt transmission clutch, a new intermediate gear, and replaced the PTO gear box. Thank you all for all the help and tips on how to do these things. A big thanks to Don from MO. I must have called Don almost everyday & sometimes several times a day. Don your patience and kindness will be remembered. OK, now (hopefully) my last plea for help before I drive this tractor out of my garage. I got everything bolted up and filled with hydraulic oil & gear lube. I pulled the starter and she started right up and idled pretty as can be. It will not shift in to any gear. I was sure that I lined the shifter forks up correctly but evidently not. I removed the top plate of the transmission again. Is there something that I am missing in this step? what is the best way to put the top plate on to be sure it is correct? How can I check it before I finish replacing all the bolts, steering post and hydraulic line again? So close but not there yet. Rod
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Don(MO)
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Posted: 17 Jun 2012 at 8:33pm |
OK, Rod you call me and we can go over this again, I know it sounds hard but it will go back on one more time. lol
Don
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3 WD45's with power steering,G,D15 fork lift,D19, W-Speed Patrol, "A" Gleaner with a 330 corn head,"66" combine,roto-baler, and lots of Snap Coupler implements to make them work for their keep.
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Rod Yowell
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Posted: 18 Jun 2012 at 9:06am |
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BUMP. Anyone else have a suggestion? I missed Don's call this morning and he's pretty busy up on his roof so I hate to bother him again.
Edited by Rod Yowell - 18 Jun 2012 at 9:06am
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Rod Yowell
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Posted: 18 Jun 2012 at 12:09pm |
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Posted: 18 Jun 2012 at 12:41pm |
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I guess we need a little more info. Does it grind when you push in the clutch and try to shift into gear?
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Posted: 18 Jun 2012 at 12:44pm |
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No it does not grind or go into any gear
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Posted: 18 Jun 2012 at 12:55pm |
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OK, if you take the top cover off the trans I am assuming you can shift it with a prybar
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Rod Yowell
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Posted: 18 Jun 2012 at 12:58pm |
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With the top off I can shift it with my fingers if the clutch in locked in
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Posted: 18 Jun 2012 at 7:30pm |
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Rod, It's been over six years since I had the shifter off my 45 but I could go over to your place and take a look, if you like. I am in O'Fallon, Mo. RickM(MO)
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Posted: 18 Jun 2012 at 8:10pm |
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After you do get it on right put only two bolts in the cover and then shift it into gear no 1 then rock the wheels -- you will tell if its in gear, shift to neutral and tractor should be free to move , repeat with other gears. forks must be into shift collars ---as I remember cover has to be "rolled' in a little from right to get the reverse fork down in there.
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Posted: 18 Jun 2012 at 9:24pm |
SUCCESS!! It's in. It's done. It's running! Thanks to all you guys that gave me some suggestions and tips to try. I was going crazy after about 6 more tries. Then Don called me with his relaxed, slow drawl and again walked me through it and suggested I also use a small mirror and light to look to make sure I had all the shifter forks where they should be and bingo! It worked like a charm. I took it out for a test run and it shifted great. The PTO is working too. Of course I had a problem with the tractor dying at the bottom of a hill and not starting. It would not jump start with cables so had to be towed back to the garage but once again Don had the answers. I just came in after firing it up and letting it run for a while. Don your a genius. when I grow up, I wanna be just like you. lol. I am still having a problem with the hydraulics, the lift cylinders won't lift or go down. I remember someone else having this problem and I think the solution was to bleed the system like you would brakes on a car. Does anyone know the best place on the WD45 to purge the hydraulics system?
Edited by Rod Yowell - 18 Jun 2012 at 9:45pm
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Posted: 18 Jun 2012 at 11:05pm |
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Put the lever all the way up and make sure the arms are up, loosen the big hex packing nuts at the ram end of the cylinders until you get fluid coming out with no bubbles, put a bucket underneath it will get messy, keep the reservoir full so you don't get more air in there, then just tighten them finger tight just until they stop leaking.
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Posted: 19 Jun 2012 at 6:48am |
I have never found a need to "bleed" the hydraulics and I have had my pump off and clean with the reservoir empty. Just refill and go to work. If there is air in it from being apart, it will be gone soon. If it doesn't go up or down now, you have other problems. You could try turning the front screw all the way in and back out. When my 45 wouldn't lift , the unloading spool was broken so it unloaded all the time, that didn't stop it from going down though. Don't be discouraged by the problems coming one after another. You're just about ready for work and you have learned much in the last couple weeks 
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