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Flint23 
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Posted: 30 Dec 2014 at 1:22am |
ooops, what happened?  
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been there done that, not doing it again...
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SHAMELESS
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Posted: 30 Dec 2014 at 1:26am |
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looks like it crystalized!
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SHAMELESS
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Posted: 30 Dec 2014 at 1:27am |
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looks like it was greased!
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JimIA
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Location: Castalia Iowa
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Posted: 30 Dec 2014 at 6:33am |
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Did the needles survive?
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Ted J
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Posted: 30 Dec 2014 at 6:48am |
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Wasn't tempered correctly and became brittle is my guess.
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19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17
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jaybmiller
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Posted: 30 Dec 2014 at 6:54am |
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Always thought it was 'wrong' to bend a steel rod 90* and think it'll hold up to a zillion hours of use. I know it's cheaper/easier than welding but...... when it breaks it always happens to the farmer, in the filed NOT the bean counter in the head office !!
I'd repair by welding the 'rods' at right angles, extending the horizontal one about 2", welding triangular 'gussets' to both side of the rods. Pretty sure it'd outlive me!!
jay
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Jim Lindemood
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Location: Dry Ridge, KY
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Posted: 30 Dec 2014 at 7:35am |
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Don't know what caused the brake -- be sure to check and see if the needles are OK -- may be able to weld a fix as was mentioned.
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Flint23
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Posted: 30 Dec 2014 at 3:51pm |
just broke the brake rod and sheared off the shear bolt at the flywheel. Not sure how, but twine got tangled on bill hook, not sure if you can see it in photo or not. 
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Ky.Allis
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Posted: 30 Dec 2014 at 5:19pm |
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Is it possible the shear bolt on the needle yoke is too hard strength? Looks like it would have sheared it before it broke the arm. I thought that was the reason it was there--to prevent just such a failure. By the way what model baler?
Edited by Ky.Allis - 30 Dec 2014 at 5:21pm
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Flint23
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Posted: 06 Jan 2015 at 3:04am |
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It's a 302 Ky. Allis. I thought the same thing but if you look at the first pic. you can see a small block under the cotter key, I think the needles were on the return swing so the block held the arm in place and the shear bolt had no effect on it. the ram stop did it's thing though.
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Michael V (NM)
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Posted: 06 Jan 2015 at 9:21am |
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if twine and/or knots are hanging on the bill hook, check the knife arm, their supposed to lightly drag on the bill hook, this is how the knot gets moved off the bill hook. the way I check is take the bolt out holding the knotter to the baler frame and rotate the knotter assembly up, watch your fingers, then watch as the knife arm moves across the bill hook
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orangereborn
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Posted: 06 Jan 2015 at 9:39am |
Flint23....I should have that link. Thanks...Dale
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