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Don(MI) View Drop Down
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    Posted: Yesterday at 2:57pm
This is a question for you seasoned folks out there.... I love the knowledge base here!

Once upon a time, I had a dream....

A small apple orchard and pumpkin farm, with fall Agritourism happening in the farm each fall. Maybe a few small corn fields, with corn mazes for the kids. A hay ride for all, fresh cider and donuts. Fall times goods market and anything related... a nice spot to take your family, with the country feel. Of course using allis tractors.


But here I am 19 years into an Engineering career.

The job is OK, but I know I would love that even more. I know it wouldn't support me or a family full time. But the dream has always been in the back of my mind.

Question is, at 39 years young... should I even try?

I feel like most days there is not enough hours in the day. Tacking on more workload does not even seem possible at the moment.

If I shifted jobs and did something else,maybe I could have enough time to try this pipe dream.

I can picture myself there, I care about people and families, but don't know how to make it happen. Dad always said, "Can't never did anything " and yes he is right. If I don't try, it won't happen.

Would you go for it? Time is everything.
Galatians 5:22-24

"I got a pig at home in a pen and corn to feed him on, All I need is a pretty little girl to feed him when I'm gone!"
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I made an attempt at yard pumpkin sales 10 years ago, had a 50% success rate



Edited by Don(MI) - Yesterday at 3:09pm
Galatians 5:22-24

"I got a pig at home in a pen and corn to feed him on, All I need is a pretty little girl to feed him when I'm gone!"
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I guess it depends, how much do like people? I mean people you don’t know? People that are dumber than a bag of broken hammers. Do you have the tolerance for people like that?
I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science.
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Yes- I have patience and compassion for all people. I'm a Believer!

Edited by Don(MI) - 23 hours 29 minutes ago at 5:21pm
Galatians 5:22-24

"I got a pig at home in a pen and corn to feed him on, All I need is a pretty little girl to feed him when I'm gone!"
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Here is the perfect contact for your venture.  Check out or maybe even contact you-tuber Ben Van Roekel aka iowANFarmer.  He & his wife (mostly the wife) did that very thing in Iowa.  They bought land on the edge of I believe Centerville, Iowa and developed it into a pumpkin farm and other similar activities.  They even received a tourist grant from the city.  Haven't seen any recent videos, he's too busy farming.  Since it's mostly a fall attraction I haven't seen any recent videos.  I hope it's still going; they might be heading into their 2nd full year.  Spent considerable $ and a lot of work for all those involved.  I'm sure his experience would reveal a lot.  Good Luck with your dream if you pursue it.
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A neighbor runs a pumpkin patch and corn maze every year. Hayrack rides and pony rides. Takes a fair number of people to operate it.
My sister and her husband operate a Christmas tree farm. They hire out for summer help with tree maintenance and fall season selling trees. She also creates wreaths and sell other items.
Her BIL has gone all in (full time) with pumpkins, ponies,tractors, hayrides, corn bin playpen, food vendors......
That is a circus.
If interested, go for it. Start small, stay on top of things and good luck. It is amazing how much time it consumes. My accountant and I have full time jobs so it gives us little time to manage a produce outlet. So far only small sales to friends and coworkers.
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Follow-up, they have website-also, contact molly@papospumkinpatch.com They are on the edge of Centerville, IA and I think the property fronts onto a well-traveled road.
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Maybe you could start out SMALL... Get 25 acres and plant / farm .... Keep your day job. Evenings and weekends on the "farm".. take a week vacation in the fall to get ready for the FIESTIVAL.. Invite family and friends... keep it small for a couple years and see how it goes ??
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As a slight elder to you and having been in a somewhat similar situation, here's my story/take. As I was growing up on a poultry farm, I was told time and time again "don't grow chickens, to much work not enough pay", "chicken farming is on the way out, don't spend the money". So I decided to go to tech school and became a machinist. I married into a family of chicken farmers and always thought "if there's no future in it how do my in-laws do so well?" After 16 years as a machinist I realized my in-laws knew my daughters better than I did and I wasn't doing that anymore. So when my father-in-law retired I quit my job and took over their farm. A couple of years later we came to a crossroads. It was time to either buy the farm and upgrade or spend money on new. I rolled the dilemma around for a few months and when decision time came I said "I can spend the rest of my life saying "what if" or I can jump and see for myself". We bought 64 acres and built 6 brand new chicken houses to the tune of a little north of $2.5M. Now 5 years later we make enough that Danielle quit teaching 2 years ago and is here with me. It's just me and her to run the farm and it's great. Is it a lot of work? Hell yeah it is. Is it worth it? Absolutely. I spend everyday with my wife and we're making our own way. We only get 1 trip around this rock. I've already got enough "what if's" to last me a lifetime
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There are a bunch of places like that in Southern Wisconsin. Wagon rides pumpkin patch corn maze and so on. Our seed corn and chemical. Sells seed in spring. And in fall there place turns into a fall festival. They have slides . A haunted house. A train ride, no rails. They are jam packed every weekend in the fall. They also have a snack area with pies Carmel apples and some beverages. Waldvogel farm if you want to look it up site claims 80 attractions.
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My brother and I put ourselves half way through engineering degrees selling pumpkins.

Location location location.

Woodchucks... Have a plan for them! Lol

Agrotourism can work but it's an insurance liability. Be sure to consult on that.

Apples are a huge spray program. Risks your and the family's health.

It's a part time farm gig, keep the day job and farm the nights and weekends.

We always looked forward to July 4th because the pumpkins started running then and no more cultivating nor hoeing!

Sell Indian corn $20/bu instead of $4/bu commodity corn to the elevator.

Sell corn stalks for display, $2/bundle, tack on an additional $12/bu equivalent.

Focus on doing one thing to start. If pumpkins or corn maze then be that one thing. Get great at it. Then add on the other tie ins.

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You got a family? If it is going to be a family thing and everyone ia aboard, great, but if they aren't. Do you want to miss family time while you are dealing with a bunch of morons. Kids are little only once. Some of my strongest memories are working side by side with my dad. This could give you that opportunity.
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I worked part time for a retired guy who had a small, pumpkin patch on the edge of town. He had 20 acres I believe but only used I think about 5. He had a play area for kids, sold sold burgers and brats.

Covid shut him down so he retired from that.

Whoever bought I believe is going to build storage units.
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Don, where in Michigan are you located? There’s Johnsons Pumpkin Farm in Saginaw. I’ve never been there but know friends and family who have been. There’s a place in Laingsburg too. We went to a family party there last year, kind of a neat place. You could look around for ideas and maybe get a feel for the amount of work you’re looking at.
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No family yet, but here's the thing. Her and I talked about raising our kids with farm exposure. We are convinced that having young ones with the farm experience, including chores and tractors are important for character building. I remember my early days, feeding baby calfs, slopping the hogs with dad. Helping with hay work and square bales, hitching up wagons for grandpa. Doing Silage for the cows in the fall (love the smell of fresh silage) -- doing all these things to us is important. Now, it might not look exactly like it was for me, for our kids. But... just having those essential farm duties and most importantly experiences is a big deal. They need that, I needed it and didn't know it.

As for Saginaw, yeah I'm about 1 hour away. We do tour local orchards here in my area and have been to about 7 different ones in the past. Looks like much work, but starting small as others have said is how I would start. Maybe planting some apple trees first...

Edited by Don(MI) - 9 hours 20 minutes ago at 7:30am
Galatians 5:22-24

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Had Neighbor who went into raspberries and set up about 2 acres of bushes - his wife did most of sales and picked for sale . But mostly pick your own .
He also was a engineer - kept his job - but did field work and weed control himself . 
Made a good side job and his older married kids helped some also . 
The hay ride and other such become a insurance nightmare , so be prepared to share any profit you make with that company . 
  Had 40 or so apple trees - planted and waited for the big harvests - now 40 years later still waiting as trees have aged out , died , never produced well , wrong stock for good yield , late frost killing buds or flowers , and blight - cedar rust , and other things like gophers, winter kill , rabbits and eating bark . 
 Neighbor next door rented 4 acres for sweet corn and pumpkin growing to local farmer who does sales . Ends up plowing most pumpkins back in the spring as market seems to be flooded with small plots around here . 
  MUNG farmers have rented lot of acreage around here and farm for markets in city , so they are willing to wok the sites as extended family sites for labor .     
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