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Henry se/k! ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 08 Mar 2010 Location: Kincaid Kansas Points: 403 |
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I have one. There was a picture of three on here tonight. I think that they belong to Buddy Woodson and his brother. One was sold in Washington Kansas. Do not know where it went. Darryl Karuse buddy has two in Washington state. Man in Iowa has one that he talked to me about. Miles Wolfe has two in mid Missouri. That adds up to 10 out of 79 the book says were build. I would like to know of any more that exist.
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Eldon (WA) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Spokane, WA Points: 7765 |
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A nursery about 80 miles nw of me has one....
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DonDittmar ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Sep 2009 Location: MIllersburg, MI Points: 2505 |
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70 diesel and 9 gas were built by the factory
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Experience is a fancy name for past mistakes. "Great moments are born from great opportunity"
1968 D15D,1962 D19D Also 1965 Cub Loboy and 1958 JD 720 Diesel Pony Start |
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Calvin Schmidt ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Ontario Can. Points: 4529 |
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Friend in PA has a rough non running diesel that needs restoration.
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Nothing is impossible if it is properly financed
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Henry se/k! ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 08 Mar 2010 Location: Kincaid Kansas Points: 403 |
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I wonder about the book because two of 10 are propane. They appear to be factory.
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TerryMN ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Rochester MN Points: 201 |
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I question a lot of the numbers of specific things like high crop gas or high crop in general. or diesel narrow front. I spoke with Norm once who wrote the book everyone refers to. Norm told me he did the best with what he had for information. I do not think the Allis records were as complete as say John Deere, they seem to be able to tell you anything about the tractor. Oliver seems to have a good collection of records also. I do not think Allis's records were as complete or at least not as complete as they were by the time the book was written. Alot of the data in the late 1960s show N/A. I guess anyone who dissagress with me can call Allis Chalmers up and see how many were made and where they were shipped to. D-19 high crops are pretty cool. I am sure they make the rare list.
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Dale-OH ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: SW OHIO Points: 905 |
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We have a Diesel.
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DarrylinWA ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Amarillo Texas Points: 1900 |
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Bob has a Diesel and Propane restored. He also has a gas that he is going to restore early next year. I found the D 19 Propane from Cody in Tennesse about 5 years ago and found his gas in Missouri about 4 years ago.
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B 10 Custom. Serial # 1001 D21, First D21 built 69 #4498 and Last D 21 Built #4609. 1946 MM UTU. And 2000, 2005 Pete's. AC custom Hauling.
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Henry se/k! ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 08 Mar 2010 Location: Kincaid Kansas Points: 403 |
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DARRYL Do you remember who had the one from Missouri ?
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DonDittmar ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Sep 2009 Location: MIllersburg, MI Points: 2505 |
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For most tractor AC did not seperate gas from lp. LP production was counted under GAS
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Experience is a fancy name for past mistakes. "Great moments are born from great opportunity"
1968 D15D,1962 D19D Also 1965 Cub Loboy and 1958 JD 720 Diesel Pony Start |
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Ron Tn ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Location: Eagleville Tn. Points: 46 |
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The diesel and LP D19 high crops in the Eagleville show picture belong to me, and I am not Buddy Woodson's brother. That cleared up , on to the question. Norm was able to come up with the production numbers for 1961 thru 1963 on these tractors. The problem is that in 1964 AC didn't record variations anymore, Therefore there is a half year production in 1964 for the D19 that we will never know how many of each type were built. Also for the count , I also have another D19 diesel not running. Ron
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Henry se/k! ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 08 Mar 2010 Location: Kincaid Kansas Points: 403 |
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For some reason I thought that Buddy had a pair. Do you know if this is fact , Ron?
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clovis ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Points: 384 |
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Interesting thread.
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Ron Tn ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Location: Eagleville Tn. Points: 46 |
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If Buddy Woodson has another one ,I am not aware of it. We live less than 2 miles from each other. He could be like me and have a non runner in the weeds. Ron
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DarrylinWA ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Amarillo Texas Points: 1900 |
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Henry. The 19 Gas of Bobs came out of Missouri,but do not know where. I lookede through thr paperwork with his wife Linda and cant find anything. I found it for Bob and it was on the yesterdaystractors site. It has the cane 2 point on it, but painted below the grill shell in block letters it says "LA GROSE MULE" sSo it may of came out of Lousiana. I cant read the serial number on the thing either. Sorry for rambling. He bought it about 4 years ago and paid about $3750 for the thing not running.
Thanks Darryl
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B 10 Custom. Serial # 1001 D21, First D21 built 69 #4498 and Last D 21 Built #4609. 1946 MM UTU. And 2000, 2005 Pete's. AC custom Hauling.
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DarrylinWA ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Amarillo Texas Points: 1900 |
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Sorry for the bad spelling. I get in a hurry and dont read it sometimes. Sorry again, Darryl
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B 10 Custom. Serial # 1001 D21, First D21 built 69 #4498 and Last D 21 Built #4609. 1946 MM UTU. And 2000, 2005 Pete's. AC custom Hauling.
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ACJerry ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 24 Sep 2010 Points: 1 |
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Hi guys!
As usual I am getting into the conversation late. Buddy Woodson had at least three d19 high crops. He had a diesel, lp and gas. I know this because I bought the diesel and lp from him and I have seen the gas. I just finished the restoration on the diesel and displayed it at the Farm Progress Show in Boone, Iowa. The lp is a basket case and will take some time to restore. Restoring these tractors is about the most fun I have ever had. |
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Henry se/k! ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 08 Mar 2010 Location: Kincaid Kansas Points: 403 |
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Please email your phone no so I can talk with you. Or call me at 620 439 5638 Henry
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ACD19farmboy ![]() Bronze Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Missouri Points: 162 |
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Hello, Waking up a 15 year old conversation here, but was curious as to your opnions on the numbers on page 165 in Norms book. The 1962 & 1963 numbers add up to the refrenced 79 units being built on page 98. But page 165 shows 1,315 diesel High Clearance units being built in 1964. I have searched the internet and all I come across is refrence to the 79 units. Naturally if true that would be 1,394 total D19 High Clearance units being built. If this conversation has been held I apologize. Thanks.
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js case ![]() Bronze Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 19 Oct 2012 Points: 57 |
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I have a D19 highcrop rear housing with the drop axles. Don't know what sn it would be. I bought from a guy years ago just to keep it from going to the scrap yard. Thought I would put me together a D19 but that never happened.
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Richardmo ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Rolla mo. Points: 1746 |
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Have the gas, Diesel and propane.
Have owned few more diesel that I sold off. |
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rtwfarm ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 26 Feb 2012 Location: nebraska Points: 1311 |
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I have 3 diesel’s
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ACD19farmboy ![]() Bronze Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Missouri Points: 162 |
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As mentioned above I wonder of the accuracy of some of the numbers in the book. Page 165 is not the only one with numerical or grammatical errors. (This is a simple observation and is not intended as being negative towards Norm.) If you shift the production totals from 1964 over two places to the right, the numbers accurately align with total production numbers that year of D19s and D21s and not production totals of D19 High Clearance or D19 Beachmaster tractors of that year.
If one were to have a D19 High Clearance with a serial number from 14945 to 16266 (1964) that would naturally mean there were more than 79 units produced. Of course we are not talking hundreds more but maybe a few dozen more. I am curious of the the serial numbers of your tractors that you all have mentioned? Thanks.
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