Allis "Forty Five" Grader Hydraulics Question

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I'm looking for information on the hydraulic pumps on the Allis “Forty Five” grader that we've revived. 
The hydraulic pump(s?) are leaking back to the PTO case. I haven't pulled anything yet as it is good enough for ranch use at the moment. 
The grader was made by Allis's Australian plant, so the serial # goes 524/***. Which means comparing what we have to what is in US parts and service manuals to work out what we've got. 
The hydraulic pumps (one for steering, one for the “farmerised” hydraulic wheel lean and moulboard roll, which I'm presuming is the one used for the optional hydraulic moulboard shift) are different from those in US. They're both of the same pattern and size, the steering pump has narrower gears and a relief valve. The parts diagrams aren't much use for detail as they look almost hand drawn in the Australian "45" part book. 
The bigger pump is Hydreco 1512A13B12C7, and was made in Australia. 
I've had no luck here on seals – the best comment was “When you could get them they were expensive and now they're RARS (Rare as rockinghorse - - ). 
Any information you might have would be appreciated, a diagram of what is in the seal assembly would help. 
Thanks in anticipation.

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Ian Beale Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 03 Oct 2011 Location: New South Wales Points: 973	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ian Beale Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Allis "Forty Five" Grader Hydraulics Question Posted: 14 May 2012 at 5:03pm
	I'm looking for information on the hydraulic pumps on the Allis “Forty Five” grader that we've revived. The hydraulic pump(s?) are leaking back to the PTO case. I haven't pulled anything yet as it is good enough for ranch use at the moment. The grader was made by Allis's Australian plant, so the serial # goes 524/***. Which means comparing what we have to what is in US parts and service manuals to work out what we've got. The hydraulic pumps (one for steering, one for the “farmerised” hydraulic wheel lean and moulboard roll, which I'm presuming is the one used for the optional hydraulic moulboard shift) are different from those in US. They're both of the same pattern and size, the steering pump has narrower gears and a relief valve. The parts diagrams aren't much use for detail as they look almost hand drawn in the Australian "45" part book. The bigger pump is Hydreco 1512A13B12C7, and was made in Australia. I've had no luck here on seals – the best comment was “When you could get them they were expensive and now they're RARS (Rare as rockinghorse - - ). Any information you might have would be appreciated, a diagram of what is in the seal assembly would help. Thanks in anticipation.

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	Try Garry at " ALLIS spares and repairs" in panton hill victoria During business hours ,he will be able to help you out !

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	Steve, Thanks but do you have any more details? White pages doesn't want to know - but I get Alli's icecream.

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	have sent you a mesg thanks steve

Ian Beale Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 03 Oct 2011 Location: New South Wales Points: 973	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ian Beale Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 May 2012 at 4:36am
	Steve, Got that and thanks. Will post progress. If necessary we will redesign the pumps and plumming - which currently looks like something by Heath Robinson (Rube Goldberg for US readers).