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steve(ill) 
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 Posted: 10 Aug 2020 at 8:53am |
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we always run some rebar from the column out several feet in each direction into the floor.. pour it solid.. that way the LOAD on the crane that is trying to TIP the column is spread out thru the entire floor... lots stronger.
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hd1937
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Posted: 10 Aug 2020 at 9:45am |
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Looking like a building now!
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Ross D.
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Posted: 10 Aug 2020 at 10:01am |
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Good morning Chris.
Food for thought (maybe). Stairs and ladders always seem to be a challenge. Stairs seem to take so much space and are always in the way, collect 'Stuff' on the sides of the steps (going up or going down - next time, maybe, don't trip,). The real estate that it occupies is expensive. They always seem to be in the way when you are walking, wheeling something, or daydreaming. In various buildings, we designed a hinged stair system, so the stairs could be raised to the ceiling area and used when required only. A counterbalance system is so easy to do with a few pulleys, cables and counter weights( 5 gal pail with gravel).
I had not seen where you intended to have the stairs. (I may have missed that session).
Chris, I really enjoy your write ups and especially the pictures. My early morning, quiet time coffee, is enjoyed reviewing your progress each day.
Thank you for sharing.
Your 'Cross The Border' friend in A.C. and pure Maple Syrup. Ross D.
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tadams(OH)
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Posted: 10 Aug 2020 at 12:26pm |
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Looking good, you will be glad when it's up and the heat of the days are past.
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Sugarmaker
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Posted: 10 Aug 2020 at 2:52pm |
 DMiller wrote:
JUST a suggestion, may not even want to consider. When pour the Floor, do yourself a BIG favor and set either a square, hexagon, octagon or circle separator seam of plywood, foam board, the old black expansion joint for concrete (4 ft 6 ft however big you wish)of some form around the base of the crane post, IF and heaven Forbid, it would teeter or need to be removed so does not destroy the remaining floor.
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DMiller, Good suggestion. Cement guy said there would be some type of expansion joint. Not sure what or how big. Regards, Chris
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Sugarmaker
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Posted: 10 Aug 2020 at 2:58pm |
Jim, tadams, Ross D, Thanks! Man I used every trick I had, and put up one sheet of roofing today. It was hot and sticky! Crew should be here soon to work a couple hours this evening. I worked on some little things to hopefully speed things along tonight. Would like to get the west side under the titanium paper tonight? Still a lot of moves, and I have not been up on the roof yet. Regards, Chris
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jaybmiller
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Posted: 10 Aug 2020 at 3:55pm |
re: Stairs. couple of thoughts... 1) before you commit, maybe snag or borrow, one of those 'stairs on wheels'... whatever they're called. That way you have loft access NOW.(well, after the floor's poured)...and it's portable, can be moved out of the way.
2) if you put a staircase in the corner... 2 steps to corner landing,then up... you can use 'under the staircase' area for air compressor, furnace, fridge,bench with phone and doodle pad ......
what's going on the roof ? steel or shingles ?? whatever it looks like a LOT of work !!
heck I'm beat from removing my new workbench to make room for other stuff, thta I now have to store in garage.. oh well... drink lots of water, gaterade, OJ, TJ, etc. and please be careful !!!
Jay
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Ted J
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Posted: 10 Aug 2020 at 8:40pm |
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Looking GOOD Chris.....I can't see it from here, but it sounds good.
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Sugarmaker
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Posted: 10 Aug 2020 at 9:05pm |
Allis folks, Have some small fix ups on the roof. I measured several osb sheets a inch too long and the are at the peak. So I need to go up and cut them tomorrow. That is the gap for the ridge vent. Here is a view from the peak: All the sheeting is in place on the west side:
Got tyvec on the south end, Thanks to Eric and friend Dale:
Here is Dale on the roof, he just had to go up!:)
Regards, Chris
Edited by Sugarmaker - 12 Aug 2020 at 9:37pm
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DMiller
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Posted: 11 Aug 2020 at 6:43am |
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Looking GREAT, hope you beat the rain and get the Titanium Paper at least on.
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hd1937
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Posted: 11 Aug 2020 at 7:11am |
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Better too long on those osb sheets, that can be corrected.
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Sugarmaker
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Posted: 11 Aug 2020 at 10:33pm |
Folks, Little moves add up.We did not get rain so me and the builder were able to do a few more things:
Ready to work on the east side roof. Regards, Chris
Edited by Sugarmaker - 12 Aug 2020 at 9:38pm
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Posted: 12 Aug 2020 at 12:52am |
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you'll have alot of room in there if you don't clutter it with them ferds!
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Sugarmaker
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Posted: 12 Aug 2020 at 5:37am |
shameless dude wrote:
you'll have alot of room in there if you don't clutter it with them ferds! |
SD, Oh there will be Fords in there too!:) Regards, Chris
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jaybmiller
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Posted: 12 Aug 2020 at 6:05am |
have to ask.. Is the fascia board( 2by6 ?) screwed into the trusses ? If not take the time now to use 2-3 screws at each truss. if you don't ,over time,the eavestrough will pull out the nailed fascia and then the 'fun' begins, trying to repair the mess . Also when installing gutters, use screws and hangers every foot. There's a LOT of water on that roof when it rains !
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Thad in AR.
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Posted: 12 Aug 2020 at 6:07am |
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Please be careful cutting that sheeting in place. Sawdust on the roof is not a good thing.
That shop looks awesome. Nice progress.
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DMiller
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Posted: 12 Aug 2020 at 6:27am |
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Be Dried In in no time!!
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FloydKS
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Posted: 12 Aug 2020 at 8:09am |
I think the 'electric pole' is crooked...just an observation looks like things are moving along nicely, congrats are in order, maybe not say that till it is finished... keep up the good work
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Posted: 12 Aug 2020 at 1:11pm |
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Floyd, maybe the pole is straight and the ground slopes....
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Sugarmaker
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Posted: 12 Aug 2020 at 9:23pm |
Guys, Thanks for checking in on me! Correct on all observations! The fascia boards are screwed in place. Two screws per rafter. I love screws! Yes sawdust is slippery, on a 6 12 pitch roof! I found that out when cutting the ridge vent. I was extra careful. That pole will be coming down at some point. Power will be underground. I hate things that look like that! When we take it down, that may be the day that I cut my hair. I have not had a hair cut or serious shave since the pandemic started. Not because I cant go to a barber. I cut my own , and just buzz it off with a number 2 or 3 attachment. It was at the same time I started getting going on this building. Guess I want to see how scruffy I can get before Cheryl cuts it in my sleep!:)
Less shop talk more shop action!
Tyveked the west side with help from GG son Rhett.
Dark picture, But the builder showed up at 6:30 or so and installed 3/4's of the east side sheeting. It was much cooler. At this point they had 45 hours in the job.
I will work on drip edge and some nailing of first row sheeting tomorrow. Hope to get the east side complete, nailed down and covered by the weekend. Maybe shingles next week? Off to order man doors and the siding tomorrow. Overhead doors are soon after that too. Regards, Chris
Edited by Sugarmaker - 12 Aug 2020 at 9:28pm
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tadams(OH)
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Posted: 13 Aug 2020 at 2:55pm |
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Looks like the boy has about all he can handle with the tool belt
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Posted: 13 Aug 2020 at 9:07pm |
Tadams, Folks, But Rhett is determined to help. I rigged up a better belt with just the hammer ring. He liked that! I puttzed today and got the first row of sheeting finish nailed, Then added the drip edge. The crew got here at 6:00 and finished the sheeting, and rake drip edge. Now ready for the ice guard and the titanium underlayment. We might have shingles coming early next week. Just ordered the man doors and the vinyl siding today. Would like to get the overhead doors ordered this week too. Lots of dollars flowing! Regards, Chris
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tadams(OH)
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Posted: 14 Aug 2020 at 3:03pm |
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When does the cement go in
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Posted: 14 Aug 2020 at 9:03pm |
tadams, Folks, I finished a small amount of roof sheeting today on the east side of the building. Also picked up 11 sheets of plywood for most of the area in the loft floor. Will be gluing and nailing that in place. The builder stopped at 7:00 tonight and installed the last of the drip edge, the ice guard, and the titanium on the east side of the roof. So we are somewhat weathered in! Shingles will arrive next Tuesday, along with the windows, and the fascia trim. Son Eric stopped and we built the birds nest corners for the sofit. He also fastened the two trusses together next to the stairwell. Regards, Chris
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Posted: 15 Aug 2020 at 12:58am |
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that pic of yer buddy Dale...looks like he just found out there was no beer left! lol
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Posted: 15 Aug 2020 at 12:59am |
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shoulda made it bigger and taller so your camper could go inside! that's the size camper i been looking for to take to the GOTO's!
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Posted: 15 Aug 2020 at 6:49am |
SD, Yes Dale will work for beer! A great guy and good friend. He and I think alike on things and he has good building skills. We worked at the same company for many years. That little camper (command central for the building project) is a great unit for one person or two young folks. It is the smallest 5th wheel ever made like 18 feet or less?. Was for smaller 1/2 ton trucks. I did a lot of little things to it so I could pull it with the F250. No it will not go in the building. The wife and I have found at our age that we are not really into taking off and going camping. Maybe in a few years?? If we do, the little camper will not be what we need for comfort. (translate that into: too hard to get in and out of the upper bunk in the middle of the night to go...........) Anyway yes it and any other camping trailers will not fit in the new shed. Just another reason to build another building just for a camper if we ever go that route!:) I did buy a very nice custom cover for this little camper a year ago and it worked great to protect it during the winter weather. Regards, Chris
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Posted: 15 Aug 2020 at 6:54am |
I sure hope you have an airnailer for all them shingles ! it is nice to see progress... I'm still mulling over a 2nd floor for my garage, gambrel vs normal.. I have to deal with the city for a varience and permits..sigh.... oh yeah lumber don't grow on trees up here naymore, ka-ching ! 2x4x8 = 6 Canuck bucks !!
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Posted: 15 Aug 2020 at 8:07pm |
Jayb, Folks, Eric came over and we borrowed the neighbors scaffolding to work on the north side sofit.
Got all the sofit cut and installed on that end.
Some inside shots:
Shingles and most of the windows coming Tuesday. Regards, Chris
Edited by Sugarmaker - 15 Aug 2020 at 8:09pm
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Posted: 15 Aug 2020 at 11:13pm |
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All of those windows will be nice! Can't wait to see those rough openings filled when they show up.
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