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 Posted: 22 Jul 2018 at 9:46am |
Another question. She has a single hydraulic coupler for a one way cylinder. The mower she was pulling has a one way lift cylinder as does my 7' New Holland haybine. (If I get her running guess what job she is going to have?)
I assume this is a standard pioneer coupler fitting?
The newer D15 parked on the road has two working fittings? I assume that means a two way cylinder operation? Is that an option for this tractor?
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modirt
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Posted: 22 Jul 2018 at 9:38am |
Those asking about the cultivator, not sure if this would have been a part of it or what it was used for. Attaches to the 3 point lift arms, and when the arms are lifted, it would rotate forward.
On the rod in question, don't have a better picture of it than the original.
The rod in question is held up in the front by a loop of baling wire. It runs back under through a loop under the left step, where it simply ends in space. The back end is threaded rod.
Don't know if the three point arm bracket thingy and this rod were supposed to be connected in any way or if both were for some other implements that are long gone.
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Posted: 21 Jul 2018 at 10:01pm |
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A D-15 in that nice of shape would bring $5k around here. They dont come up for sale very often. Lights would have to go. Missing side panel but they are available. You could have twins!
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Posted: 21 Jul 2018 at 6:26pm |
End of the day and I turned the fan and it was moving an inch or so in either direction. I'm guessing engine is free.
I'll drink to that!!! 
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Posted: 21 Jul 2018 at 12:53pm |
Ah yes....nothing like the smell of ATF in the morning............That pan was empty last night, so all that came from the cylinders.......plus whatever is still left on top of them.
And the carb is off and is went to town to be cleaned up and rebuilt. Shop said they had an old guy (who turns out to be younger than me) who had done about 1,000 of them.
Throttle valve was stiff but working. Choke was not wanting to budge much at all.
Once free of the carb, choke cable freed up and while stiff, was working some. Throttle linkage remained stiff however. Not sure where to go looking for the trouble there. Don't know if simply working them back and forth some is the answer or if something else should be done.
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Posted: 21 Jul 2018 at 9:38am |
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Haha
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Posted: 21 Jul 2018 at 9:35am |
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slow today. question already answered
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Posted: 21 Jul 2018 at 9:34am |
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you will use the original seat frame either way. you are only changing the cushions.
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Posted: 21 Jul 2018 at 9:32am |
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Yes you use the same frame and put the new cushions right onto it
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Posted: 21 Jul 2018 at 8:39am |
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Was wondering if it would be possible / feasible for an upholstery shop to rehab the original seat. Main reason being it still has the AC logo and name on the back of it.
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Posted: 21 Jul 2018 at 8:27am |
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Also The best deal on New original looking seat cushions is eBay There dang near half the price of anyone else and they’re comfortable.
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Posted: 21 Jul 2018 at 7:48am |
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It IS worth $3000 if the tranny is good!!!!
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sometimes I walk out to my shop and look around and think "Who's the idiot that owns this place?"
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Posted: 21 Jul 2018 at 7:37am |
I'm located west of Millersburg, so not far.
BTW, I should also mention something a bit spooky. Two years ago, I was driving down the road and noticed a guy mowing his lawn area with a nice looking old AC tractor. I turned around, stopped in his drive and walked out to visit. A nice looking old D15 that was purring like a kitten. Something about his son in law or someone had bought it an an auction, and had brought it to him to use.
I noticed he kept it in an old barn and every time I drove by, I'd see the nose of it sticking out. Always thought it would be a nice unit to have, but never did or said anything more about it. About a month ago, I also noticed a new looking Kubota sticking out of another door of that barn, and I began to wonder what would become of the D15.
So fast forward a few days, the tractor I'm writing about showed up one evening across the road from my house. Literally the next morning, the D15 I had been watching showed up on the side of the road with a for sale sign on it. $3,000. And one like it on Craigslist about 50 miles away for $3,500. So those two became my benchmark for what I should be willing to spend on repairs on this one. Scary part is you don't know until you are into it. I think I'm going to get lucky and come in way under that, but until it's running and all is known, it is still a wild card.
But these are pretty rare tractors, and what are the odds that two of them would show up within a mile of each other? Neither owner knowing the other existed, and I found out about both of them within 12 hours of each other?
BTW, as of yesterday, the D15 that was for sale is still there. I've stopped by to look at it to see where some of the working parts are so I know where things are on the one I'm working on.
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Posted: 21 Jul 2018 at 7:34am |
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He said Central MO, near Fulton earlier.
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Posted: 21 Jul 2018 at 6:35am |
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Those are sweet little tractors and highly collectible. We had one and traded it on an 8070. I hated to see it go but the only thing we used it for was pulling a trailer in the spring fixing fence.
Where in Mo are you. I’m northeast of Jefferson City.
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Posted: 20 Jul 2018 at 11:25pm |
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just clean or replace points. set point gap at .22. your old condenser will be better than a new one. clean contacts inside dist cap. no need to throw a bunch of parts at it. you can get carb kit and tune up at local parts store as needed. you should put new plugs in and contrary to what most will say, I use champion plugs in allis with good results. use a J8c. they have changed the number but a J8 is the right heat range especially if it uses some oil. I have a lot of seat time on a tractor just like yours. looks like the ground cable will cause trouble too. the breather/dip stick under the seat is important to have enough oil in it. send me a personal message if you like. good luck and don't grind the gears. that is the death to those transmissions!
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Posted: 20 Jul 2018 at 10:39pm |
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You can use a shop vac to remove what oil is left in there.
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Posted: 20 Jul 2018 at 9:33pm |
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You need to get it turning over good without spark plugs to blow the oil out because you can't compress all the oil. Whatever is left in there thou will prevent a dry start and help the compression.
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Posted: 20 Jul 2018 at 9:24pm |
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I’m happy for him to! So glad another great D-15 is saved from the scrap yard! Sounds positive so far. Hope your able to get some sleep, I feel your excitement.
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Posted: 20 Jul 2018 at 7:49pm |
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Jeeeeeez! What a lucky dog! I dont even know you but I am happy for you!!!
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sometimes I walk out to my shop and look around and think "Who's the idiot that owns this place?"
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Posted: 20 Jul 2018 at 6:38pm |
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Luckily with the 12 V system the couple D series tractors I had brought back to life I haven’t had to mess with the generators they charged right away and you might get lucky with the starter!
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Posted: 20 Jul 2018 at 6:25pm |
I think I'm OK on the rings and pistons. With all the oil in, I jogged the fan a bit and it moved about 1/2" and I could hear stuff sloshing around. Sounded wonderful.
But at the least, she is going to sit where she is until the carb is working.
Next big worries are the starter and generator. Fan belt looked OK.
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Posted: 20 Jul 2018 at 6:24pm |
 modirt wrote:
I suspected the rod may have been for a cultivator. There is a forward projecting bracket mounted to the top of the left side 3 point link. We had something similar on a JD 620, which carried a front mounted cultivator. Except that one used two push/pull rods....one on each side, and they were more like 1.5" pipes. But if this one was used to lift in a pulling motion vs. a push, a single solid rod may have worked.
I was also wondering what those brackets would have been used for and a front mounted cultivator was the only thing I could think of. You're right, one is a wing nut type gizmo, the other has a wedge, that goes up against the side of the cultivator unit. Need a clearer view of the rod, to see if it goes with cults, or mower. The way the front cults were raised, was a bracket, on the inside of the lift arms, went to a J-bolt, attached to a flat piece of iron, that connected to the cult gangs, and made them lift (IIRR!)
My first "car".....was a JD B tractor. I got started on it when I was about 10 or 11. At the time, my interest was in the fact it had an engine and didn't need to be peddled like my bicycle did. It also had a 2 row cultivator and I tried to talk my dad into letting me put it on and use it. He refused, insisting that if I was interested in running a cultivator, I'd get more done with the 4 row, and the 620 had power steering and the B didn't. My guess now is he simply wanted to get out of all the work it would take to mount it up, knowing the glamor of that would wear off in about 10 minutes once I tried to steer the old B by hand. (Known of then as Armstrong Power Steering) Especially with the weight of the cultivator on it.
The D15 was probably big enough to have handled a 4 row cultivator too.
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Posted: 20 Jul 2018 at 5:12pm |
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Yeah as long as Stuff Isnt locked up most of it will penetrate in between the cylinder wall the piston... Personally after you get a new battery I would leave the spark plugs off and blow most of that out of there as it seems your engine is free when you crank it over. Then proceed to put your plugs in them put fresh fuel in it and see if you have a running a tractor might smoke for a couple minutes. Before doing that I personally would have just seen if the engine would move in a gentle fashion but to each their own this is fun it’s like I’m reliving my D 15 barn find again!!
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Posted: 20 Jul 2018 at 4:43pm |
Added more ATF to the cylinders.......enough it ran out the plug hole of the aft one and I could hear it sloshing around in the others. Hopefully that should do it.
And while I understand what the purpose of the ATF oil is in there, I remain somewhat fuzzy on what becomes of it. On the other hand, the oil drips coming out the drain plug are now the color of the ATF, so given enough time, it may all seep past the rings and out the bottom?
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Posted: 20 Jul 2018 at 4:28pm |
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Looks like you’re on the right track to have that running in absolute no time after we pulled mine out of the barn the starter was spinning slow so put A little oil in it as it was spinning doubled in speed then proceeded to do all the things you did except for transmission fluid in the cylinders new battery Fuel cleaned points and Fired right up now it’s my favorite tractor to hop on to do any little thing around shop!!
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Posted: 20 Jul 2018 at 3:51pm |
Modirt, I think Matt Scott from Jordan make battery tray for them but I could be wrong I know he made some hold down for them, his # is 612-508-4759. If you want to sell them cultivator brackets I may be interested in them or if you would like a cultivator for D-15 I would sell the one I have because I don't have the brackets.
Edited by Kenny L. - 20 Jul 2018 at 3:53pm
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Posted: 20 Jul 2018 at 3:51pm |
DrAllis wrote:
The pistons have a bowl top. One cup of oil maybe doesn't quite fill the bowl, so you need another cup to flood the rings/sleeves. |
Will do. Good thing I bought 2 quarts!!!
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Posted: 20 Jul 2018 at 3:42pm |
Forgot the pictures........sorry....
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