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AC D10 III, D12 III

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    Posted: 13 Feb 2012 at 11:29am
I am getting a D12 III together and have a complete power steering from an I-40 to put on in place of the standard armstrong steering.
 
Question is where can I get new hydraulic lines made for the pressure lines and also the cylinder lines for the ram, these are part steel and part hose?
 
Next question is would a custom cylinder mount be objectional should someone want to restore this tractor in the future?




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Joe, are you going to have full hydrastatic power steering? I've found a parts D-10 with power steering and plan to install the power steering on my D-12 III. I have seen it done. You can do what you want, its your tractor. It would be wise not to modify anything to the extent that it couldn't be put back to originial by the next owner.
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  Hello Joe   I have an I-40 that leaked bad around the valve area, bought new lines and fittings bent and formed to fit.  Try a hyd shop.  Good luck
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Joe I'd like to do the same to my D12, but it is hard to take that first step.  No power steering  sucks on these tractors when you put a loader on them. Doesn't help when they have a crappy steering box to begin with!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ctbowles58 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Feb 2012 at 10:30pm
Joe try asdales hyd. in mexico mo.
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With Hydrostatic steering what happens if you are going down the road and a hydraulic hose breaks ?
 
Hang on !!
 
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Originally posted by Gary Gary wrote:

With Hydrostatic steering what happens if you are going down the road and a hydraulic hose breaks ?
 
 
Hang on !!
 
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Hi Joe
The point I was hinting at is - to my understanding - SOME  Hydrostatic steering does not have a direct link betwwen the steering box and the front wheels.
SOOOOO  if a hydraulic line breaks the wheels immediately turn hard left or hard right to the end of  maximum travel.
 
Not sure if this would be the case with a D-10 with "Factory"  PS.
 
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Power steering on the D-10/12's is actually a power assist to the mechanicial steering.
I-40/400 has full hydrastatic steering with no mechanicial connection to the steering wheel.
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Originally posted by Gary Gary wrote:

Hi Joe
The point I was hinting at is - to my understanding - SOME  Hydrostatic steering does not have a direct link betwwen the steering box and the front wheels.
SOOOOO  if a hydraulic line breaks the wheels immediately turn hard left or hard right to the end of  maximum travel.
 
Not sure if this would be the case with a D-10 with "Factory"  PS.
 
Gary
Many AC models have hydrostatic steering and I have never heard of an accident because of it...I did have a 170 once that I had to keep turning the steering wheel in order to go straight on a sidehill, otherwise all the models I have had have worked well and have "fingertip" steering.
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