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    Posted: 01 Oct 2011 at 8:19am
i currently have a cheapo parts washer that can only use water based cleaners.  since my shed is unheated, i have to drain it for the winter.  i found a reasonably priced safety-kleen solvent cleaner for sale today, but haven't bought it yet....i've got a few questions..
- is it possible to add anti freeze to the water based cleaner to keep it from freezing?
- if i go with the solvent cleaner, what's the best solvent to use and what can i expect to pay?
- how long will the solvent last before it needs changing?
- can i run kero or diesel in the solvent cleaner?
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Not an expert but I would guess you wouldn't add anti freeze to it because anti freeze is so corrosive on metal and I would think kero or diesel would be too flammable although they would work good. I bought some years back that was eco-friendly (It's the only type they had at the time) and it wasn't worth bringing home, it did nothing to remove grease and it left a slimey film that was a pain to get off.
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IF you want to go to full solvent, either go buy a new $99.00 harbor freight washer, or a parts store brand, this is the only thing that 25 years ago my dad bought from them that we still have.  Look on Craigslist, there are typically many on there for around $50.00.  Then go striaght solvent won't freeze, and wil get the greese off.  As for what to pay for solvent, I can't tell you, but those washers take 20 gallons.  The nicer or bigger the washer the more solvent they take typically.
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Got a Clarke Parts Washer. Run solvent mixed with Kerosene. Thing about dissolves grease.
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If you go through Summit Racing you can get a good 10 or 20 gallon for under $150. Come with lots of other little toold that help get stuff clean to.
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I forgot to mention, enour school has a Saftey Kleen, a high dollar set up to. The most powerfull solvent recomended for it is pisswater compared to mine. Heres what I have, only a bit older:
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I think if you check most (if not all) these 20 gallon units, the pump is not intended for other than water base solvent. It may not crap out with a solvent base cleaner, but if it does there's no warranty. I have one and am taking my chances. Harbor Freight has them from time to time on sale in the $80-$90 dollar range.
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Originally posted by GBACBFan GBACBFan wrote:

I think if you check most (if not all) these 20 gallon units, the pump is not intended for other than water base solvent. It may not crap out with a solvent base cleaner, but if it does there's no warranty. I have one and am taking my chances. Harbor Freight has them from time to time on sale in the $80-$90 dollar range.

Mine's probably 10-11 years old and has had the same mix in it since it was almost new. Even has the mixture amounts written in permanent marker on the inside lid lol. I need to make a new batch though, gettin a little black.  last time I refilled it, I tore the pump apart to clean it out, the only thing I had to do was change the filter, otherwise everything was nice and clean
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I just have one of those 3 gallon bench top units. I find that mineral spirits paint solvent works much better than kerosene. Around here it's even cheaper than kerosene. The water based stuff doesn't work. The only time I've seen water based cleaners work is if they're heated and used in what amounts to a large dishwasher.
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We use solvent in our parts washer. Something we do when the solvent starts to get dirty is to put it in buckets and put them in a place they won't be disturbed. Let it settle out for a couple of months. The dirt and grease seems to settle to the bottom. We then siphon or pour off the top which is just about as clean as when the solvent was new.

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I also use the mineral spirits in mine. I built mine about 12 years ago using a garage sale electric fuel pump hooked to a battery charger. Recently I got one of those electrical strips with an on/off switch so no more pluging it in everytime. I made a homemade filter on the end of the suction hose using a spray paint can shot with a shot gun and covered with a sock.
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Depending on the solvent, the inside of the HF pumps may get dissolved, or at least turned to gum. The older ones had not had the cheap polymers used, back then they were made of a different material. Also, very few want the liability of a lower flashpoint solvent used, too much risk of fire from people doing dumb things.
 
Your current pump might hold up to a petroleum based solvent, but the test is going to be Pass or Fail. Depends on the polymer used to make the pump parts, remember, the newer it is, the more likely it will have been made to only withstand water-based cleaners. As the requirements lessened, the parts will have got their specs reduced to drive out cost. They have to withstand the stuff you clean off though, so there is a chance you will be fine.
 
Once you make the solvent decision, be sure to keep fire protection handy in the event of a worst case scenario.
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Watch the auctions, I picked up a Gray Mills T500 tank ($1750 new) for $3 at an auction.  The only drawback is it takes between 30 and 42 gallons of solvent that I get from the local tractor shop for $6 a gallon.  Stoddard solvent works well too, but does not carry the dirt in suspension as well as the fluid from the tractor shop.  One filling lasts me several years, and the tank has a filter system on it, plus an agitation system that really cleans well.  I've heard soy-diesel works well too, with higher than usual soy percentage.  The higher soy concentration should also raise the flash point to a safe level for most washers too.
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yes the cheap ones, which i currently use, only take water based solvents.  the stuff i use in it works pretty good, my only complaint is that i can't use it in the winter.  that's why i'm looking at alternatives.
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Paint thinner as solvent!
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