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Jamie (KY) 
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Posted: 09 Jan 2011 at 10:16pm |
I've been thinking of getting a plow to go behind my D14. Well, to be honest, a buddy of mine is thinking of buying one for me so I'll work his food plots in the fall before deer season.
The D14, to my understanding, was designed to pull 3 14's. Is that right?
If so, would that require weight or fluid in the rear tires?
I have no weights or fluid back there but have 90+% rear tread. Would it be better to look for 2 bottoms or 3? I don't want to add weight because most of the time it's just a show tractor with the occasional minor work here and there.
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Denis in MI
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Posted: 09 Jan 2011 at 10:43pm |
Depends on soil conditions, in my soils a WD45 with loaded tires can handle 2 bottoms but three is to much some times. If I were you I would go with a 2 bottom since you will be able to handle it in all conditions as opposed to some or most, but I don't know what your ground is like I have very heavy ground.
Just my opinion though,
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Posted: 09 Jan 2011 at 11:03pm |
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Used a 3 furrow #73 on mine at a show in the summer. Also no weights/fluid in miine. It pulled it, but not very well. Lots of wheel spin and traction booster kept lifting. It might work better with more weight over the wheels. I might load my tires with windshield washer fluid eventually.
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Posted: 09 Jan 2011 at 11:18pm |
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For gardens or food plots and shows, I would go with 2 bottom. You can take the middle bottom out of a 3 and move the back bottom forward making it into a 2 bottom though. Keep that in mind if you find a decent 3 bottom at a good price.
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Jamie (KY)
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Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 3:33am |
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Thanks guys. This plow buying thing has been in the works for a couple of years now so I don't see it happening anytime soon. I was just rolling it over in my mind thinking about the weight.
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DSpears N IL
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Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 12:18pm |
  This is Bob Henry with his D-14 and 82 plow. No fluid in the tires, but 1 set of F & H weights.
DeWayne
Edited by DSpears N IL - 10 Jan 2011 at 9:01pm
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Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 12:23pm |
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I have 2/16 for my D/14 but for garden spots 2/14would be better. It won,t move soil over as much and chunks will be smaller plus you get to play with Aiiis a little longer.
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darrel in ND
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Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 12:47pm |
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make sure you buy an allis snap coupler hitch plow, a trail type one will not work nearly as well. Also, if you go with a 3 bottom, which you should be able to pull as long as it is a snap coupler one, make sure you get one that has the rear lift assist wheel, as they were longer and had a lot more trash clearance. I have one that is the short version, and one that is the longer one, and my D 14 pulls both OK, but I can't go through much of anything trash wise with the shorter one. Just my 2 cents worth, Darrel
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Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 12:50pm |
Both my D-14s easily pull a 3-14 in good soil( no clay).Half bald tires,no fluid either.
Did a couple acres this fall, untouched for 20 years but sandy soil, never missed a beat.Really nice to see the sod rollover...ah summer....won't be long !
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Jamie (KY)
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Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 5:30pm |
I have the 3 pt conversion on mine so it would need to be a 3pt plow. The buddy of mine that keeps wanting to do this may end up with a tractor of his own someday so I figure 3 pt would be the most versitle anyway.
From what I can tell, plows are going for about $100 per bottom for something that's not been rebuilt or repainted. I'm hoping to find one at an auction or something for under $100. That would be great. My uncle bough a JD 4 bottom 16 inch plow for $60 a couple of years ago. That just don't happen often.
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Denis in MI
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Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 5:42pm |
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Is your 3 pt a factory stlye that allows you to use your draft control if it is not you may have trouble pulling much of a plow.
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Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 7:09pm |
What Denis said!!! If your 3 point isn't connected to the snap couple bell, don't even consider a 3 bottom without fluid or lots of weight. Your traction booster is what made that light of a tractor pull 3-14's. Most 3 point conversions don't allow the traction booster to work.
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Jack(Ky)
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Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 7:28pm |
I have always pulled 2 with my D14 and it seems about right.JP
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Posted: 11 Jan 2011 at 5:37pm |
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I have a snap coupler 2 bottom 14" plow with slat moldboards. It is a model 52 plow. I have used it on my D-17 to plow gardens,But after installing 3 Pt. hitch on it,I can't use it anymore. It works good for gardens because it is close coupled and you can plow close to fences on the ends. I would consider selling it. I'm in Nicholasville,Ky. If you are interested you can call me. (859) 806-5480 7:30 am -6:30 pm EST
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Posted: 31 Jan 2011 at 7:03pm |
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Bumping it up for Bob Henry!!!!!
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Posted: 31 Jan 2011 at 7:10pm |
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We had a new D14 with 3-14 plow, the first one the dealer got in when they were announced, 1957, rears were loaded, no extra weights. My advice would be to go with 2-14 or 2-16 if you are not going to add weight.
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Posted: 31 Jan 2011 at 7:32pm |
My first tractor was D14 with a SC three furrow 14 inch plow loaded tires it worked good in our loam soil. I sold it and bought an engagement ring for my wife I am happily married 34 years with two both children married and one granddaughter. What I'm missing is the D14 and plow to give my grand kids a ride on. The grandkids will have to learn in the 8050
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Posted: 31 Jan 2011 at 7:43pm |
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Put in a lot of time on a D-14 with 3-14 plow back in the 60's. You need fluid in the rears to handle well. Was always glad to get on D-17 after a few days with the D-14 but grandaddy always said the 14 would do more than it should based on size and hp.
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Posted: 31 Jan 2011 at 9:22pm |
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Jamie, if you have any black clay like I do here you'll be much happier with a 2 bottom of some type. Especially if the conversion hitch doesn't use the draft. I did use the 15 after I fixed it this summer pulling an old ford 2 bottom a lot. worked some old drive way and some hedge row pulling some large roots out. I did spin out a few times on a large root but otherwise in the clay it worked the tractor real well. I had it deeper than it should have been too but I really wanted to push the tractor a little. I don't know for sure but I think it was a 16 bottom. The plow needs it's adjustments freed up to fine tune it for this tractor so it's smoother to operate. Power was no problem, could have used some extra weight on the rears though. Haven't mounted the pie weights yet. Hope this helps, Dave.
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