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1953 CA w/ Snap Coupler

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    Posted: Yesterday at 10:56am
I have been keeping an eye out for Snap Coupler CA parts. All of my CA implements are pin hitch, but with the 4 row toolbar planter I am building, I'm worried a CA might not be able to handle quite that much weight based on feedback from the forum. It would be nice to set the planter toolbar up for Snap Coupler and be able to just hook that planter up to a WD/45 if I find out the CA can't handle it. Cue the search for the CA Snap Coupler hitch parts and I found this 1953 CA for sale and dragged it home. 

The one rear rim disintegrated when we winched it onto my trailer. There was a can over the exhaust but it's stuck solid. I think I have gotten lucky once in my life with soaking the cylinders in diesel and actually breaking an engine loose. Might do that just for kicks while I work on the other tractors and the planter.






1939 B, 1940 B, 1941 WC, 1951 WD, 1952 CA, 1956 WD-45
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Since I have accumulated 5 cheap/rough CAs now, you start noticing things:
-All 5 have Zenith carburetors. I have yet to see an MS carb on one in person but I know they exist.
-All have the higher compression ratio gas engines.
-4/5 had at least a couple of cultivator brackets left on them.
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Great find on a CA with SnapCoupler that may run with a little work.

As with most anything 70 some years old, Some things get changed.  As per the parts book, only a Zenith carburetor was OEM on a CA. However any carburetor from a B,C. RC. D10/12 will bolt to the manifold. What is the Spec number on the M/S you have seen on a CA?
 
My guess is that few Distillate or High altitude CAs were sold.

The CA is a wonderful cultivating tractor and the mounting brackets and levers don't interfeer with most other CA implements. 
If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere.
Real pullers don't have speed limits.
If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY
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Originally posted by PaulB PaulB wrote:

Great find on a CA with SnapCoupler that may run with a little work.

As with most anything 70 some years old, Some things get changed.  As per the parts book, only a Zenith carburetor was OEM on a CA. However any carburetor from a B,C. RC. D10/12 will bolt to the manifold. What is the Spec number on the M/S you have seen on a CA?
 
My guess is that few Distillate or High altitude CAs were sold.

The CA is a wonderful cultivating tractor and the mounting brackets and levers don't interfeer with most other CA implements. 

The AGCO parts book shows a TSX-486... But if it's not in your parts book, maybe the MS carb was only offered as a service replacement sometime after the CA was out of production? I.e. trash or lose your CA's Zenith carb in the 1970s and AC sold you a complete TSX-486 as a replacement?

I am sure looking forward to cultivating with one of mine. You are more optimistic than me about getting this one running quickly, but I will certainly try.
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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Yes, my mistake. It's the D10/12 tractors that only used a Zenith. How ever of all of the CAs I've acquired over the years, not one had a M/S on it when I got it. 
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Originally posted by PaulB PaulB wrote:

Yes, my mistake. It's the D10/12 tractors that only used a Zenith. How ever of all of the CAs I've acquired over the years, not one had a M/S on it when I got it. 

I wonder if they were only very late production, maybe? Or just used to fill in if Zenith couldn't keep up with demand? It would be interesting if anyone on here has a fairly original CA that they know or believe originally came with an MS carb, and what the serial numbers are.
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Nice find wjohn! Lots of good looking parts on that one.
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Originally posted by wjohn wjohn wrote:

Originally posted by PaulB PaulB wrote:

Yes, my mistake. It's the D10/12 tractors that only used a Zenith. How ever of all of the CAs I've acquired over the years, not one had a M/S on it when I got it. 

I wonder if they were only very late production, maybe? Or just used to fill in if Zenith couldn't keep up with demand? It would be interesting if anyone on here has a fairly original CA that they know or believe originally came with an MS carb, and what the serial numbers are.

My original 1952 CA (13092) came with a TSX-486.
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I have two CA's with snap couplers, if you can find the side weights for it, I don't think lifting it would be a problem unless this planter is super heavy.  But for sure a tricycle front end without the side weights is a bit lite on the front end.
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Good find on this CA. It will take some $$$ to get it going and looking good but the satisfaction will be worth it. It will make a very nice tractor. 
Just an old country boy saved by the grace of God.
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Originally posted by Trinity45 Trinity45 wrote:

I have two CA's with snap couplers, if you can find the side weights for it, I don't think lifting it would be a problem unless this planter is super heavy.  But for sure a tricycle front end without the side weights is a bit lite on the front end.

And/or wheel weights which are pretty cheap and easy to find.
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In my area the CA side and front weights are pretty scarce and not cheap even though there are a good many CA tractors around
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Originally posted by Gary Burnett Gary Burnett wrote:

In my area the CA side and front weights are pretty scarce and not cheap even though there are a good many CA tractors around

CA tractors are quite rare in northern Idaho and accessories are even more scarce. Allis-Chalmers never attracted a large following around these parts Cry

Judging from the used tractors around here it seems that Ford couldn't haul them in fast enough.


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