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   I have a oil leak from the PTO that appeared to be from the bottm retainer bolt hole.  I discovered that the idiot previous owner used 3 different length bolts and two of them were worn 1/4" + below the head including the bottom one. The two retainer holes the crap bolts were in (top & bottom) were out of round and the faces were ground down.  The mating housing hole for the bottm bolt was sloppy when threaded.  Of course there are high spots by the retainer bolt holes.  
There were 5 shims between the retainer and the housing and a gasket between the shims and housing but none between the retainer and the shims.

The shaft has some small dings and scratches that I [polished out. The seal looks OK but is some off-brand so I'll repkace it. 

Does anyone have a nice retainer (part # 207617)?
Should there be a gasket between the retainer and the shims? My book doesn't show one.
What's the process for the shims?
It appars that National 50135 seal would be correct. Yes?

Thanks.

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Freewheeling Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 05 Nov 2017 Location: Wisconsin Points: 157	Post Options Post Reply Quote Freewheeling Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Unable to post Posted: 19 hours 10 minutes ago at 9:57pm
	I have a oil leak from the PTO that appeared to be from the bottm retainer bolt hole. I discovered that the idiot previous owner used 3 different length bolts and two of them were worn 1/4" + below the head including the bottom one. The two retainer holes the crap bolts were in (top & bottom) were out of round and the faces were ground down. The mating housing hole for the bottm bolt was sloppy when threaded. Of course there are high spots by the retainer bolt holes. There were 5 shims between the retainer and the housing and a gasket between the shims and housing but none between the retainer and the shims. The shaft has some small dings and scratches that I [polished out. The seal looks OK but is some off-brand so I'll repkace it. Does anyone have a nice retainer (part # 207617)? Should there be a gasket between the retainer and the shims? My book doesn't show one. What's the process for the shims? It appars that National 50135 seal would be correct. Yes? Thanks.

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Allis dave Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 10 May 2012 Location: Northern IN Points: 3019	Post Options Post Reply Quote Allis dave Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 hours 20 minutes ago at 6:47am
	What tractor are you working on?

Freewheeling Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 05 Nov 2017 Location: Wisconsin Points: 157	Post Options Post Reply Quote Freewheeling Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 9 hours 56 minutes ago at 7:11am
	An IB.

steve(ill) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: illinois Points: 86698	Post Options Post Reply Quote steve(ill) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 8 hours 24 minutes ago at 8:43am
	all of these parts are the same as the B and C tractors... your "retaner ring" or "seal holder" is just that... clamps the bearing IN and holds the seal in place... you adjust the PRELOAD on the bearings by adding or taking away shims.. sometimes there is a thin paper gasket between the steel shims to help SEAL from an oil drip.. This should be VERY THIN.. you can also wipe on a VERY THIN layer of RTV (.001 inch) to for a "gasket".......... clearance on the bearing should be at zero or maybe a couple thousandth loose.. Dont CRUNCH the bearings... kind of like adjusting front wheel bearings on an older car....remember, adjust till it drags, then back off one flat on the nut ???
	Like them all, but love the "B"s.

steve(ill) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: illinois Points: 86698	Post Options Post Reply Quote steve(ill) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 8 hours 20 minutes ago at 8:47am
	if you have trouble with the bolt threads or holes, you can put teflon tape on the threads and pipe dope to seal up any problems... can also fill holes with RTV is you wish..
	Like them all, but love the "B"s.