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Posted: 10 Nov 2023 at 9:41am |
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Posted: 10 Nov 2023 at 9:58am |
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They began that race to the bottom with the Break the Owner's back super stiff frames that crack and fail.
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Posted: 10 Nov 2023 at 12:31pm |
Of the Dodge trucks I've owned (the oldest being from the 50s) I've NEVER had one frame crack or break, rust away, yes. I have seen a new at the time Ford 350 pulling a gooseneck trailer at a tractor pull with 2 tractors on the trailer get the trailer wheels caught and when the driver tried to get unstuck the frame humped up to look like Jackie Gleason's Sherriff's car in "Smokey and the Bandit". I'd rather have a stiff frame in a truck than a wet noodle frame. Trucks are made to work, if you want a smooth ride get a big old Cadillac.
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Posted: 10 Nov 2023 at 1:43pm |
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Just more proof that electric vehicles are not ready for prime time. They are depending on the very thing they want to do away with to charge the battery (the gasoline engine). Insanity.
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Posted: 10 Nov 2023 at 5:24pm |
It is allowed on all hands, that the primitive way of breaking eggs, before we eat them, was upon the larger end; but his present majesty's grandfather, while he was a boy, going to eat an egg, and breaking it according to the ancient practice, happened to cut one of his fingers. Whereupon the emperor his father published an edict, commanding all his subjects, upon great penalties, to break the smaller end of their eggs. The people so highly resented this law, that our histories tell us, there have been six rebellions raised on that account; wherein one emperor lost his life, and another his crown.
It seems Dodge has decided that eating the egg from the inside out is the way to go... 
Edited by DiyDave - 10 Nov 2023 at 5:25pm
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Posted: 10 Nov 2023 at 7:46pm |
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That sounds more like something Ford would do!
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Posted: 10 Nov 2023 at 9:20pm |
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Dodge components . Unlike Fords, way outlast their bodies
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steve(ill)
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Posted: 10 Nov 2023 at 9:24pm |
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They all have their problems... it all depends on if your talking a 1970 , 1995 or 2020 truck...
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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Posted: 11 Nov 2023 at 5:56am |
 PaulB wrote:
Of the Dodge trucks I've owned (the oldest being from the 50s) I've NEVER had one frame crack or break, rust away, yes. I have seen a new at the time Ford 350 pulling a gooseneck trailer at a tractor pull with 2 tractors on the trailer get the trailer wheels caught and when the driver tried to get unstuck the frame humped up to look like Jackie Gleason's Sherriff's car in "Smokey and the Bandit". I'd rather have a stiff frame in a truck than a wet noodle frame. Trucks are made to work, if you want a smooth ride get a big old Cadillac. |
Well then, just stop by the mechanic/ tire store in the nearby town. They put a 9 year old Dodge on the hoist, and when they lifted it it folded in half.
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Posted: 11 Nov 2023 at 6:26am |
well Ford Canada thinks it has the better idea....
the cynic is me says.... Ford will change over the plant, grab 'support' from the guvs(aka taxpayers ) then 3-5 years later call it a 'loss', somehow 'write off' the 2 billion spent, then CLOSE DOWN Oakville as it's 'too costly to retool' back to gas/diesel powered vehicles.
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Posted: 11 Nov 2023 at 9:07am |
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IMO, the 2025 Ramcharger’s 14000lb towing is a more practical direction of its range & that it competes with Tesla’s truck.
The transition periods of any evolution are never appreciated. But I DO appreciate EV’s higher torque concept.
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Posted: 11 Nov 2023 at 9:11am |
re: But I DO appreciate EV’s higher torque concept.
It's all about 'gears' If you want torque, a '57 Willy PU with 5.38s will pull 14K easily,not fast, but it will pull it. Now add the Warn OD unit and it'll go faster.....just not Ferrai fast
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Posted: 12 Nov 2023 at 7:51am |
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I like my Duramax better every day ! I did have a 2014 Grand Cherokee Eco Diesel for 100,000 miles but the emissions system failures made me bail out and back to gas.
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Posted: 12 Nov 2023 at 8:12am |
Every truck is different, just like people and the use of their truck is different.
I get tired of people saying -- a real truck has a one seat cab -- a real truck can pull a 20K trailer -- a real truck gets 8 MPG. -- a real truck drives like a lumber wagon
Well, 90% of "THE TRUCKS" dont fit the above. "MOST" people use a truck these days as a replacement for a station wagon or van. They also want some luxury a and creature comfort ( like a nice car) when they are driving.
I dont need a 20K trailer hauler.. Maybe 10% of my time is pulling a trailer, and 90% of that is a car trailer or Bobcat trailer at 8,000 pounds... YES, i have pulled a 12K trailer, but that is seldom and i dont really have that need... What i do need is a CREW CAB... What i do need is 18 MPG when on the highway... What i do need is comfort for my old bones when driving over an hour... What i do need is 4 x 4 to go thru the corn field or woods when needed.... What i do need is something that will haul a dozen sheets of plywood or 25 - 12 ft 2x4.
Some people need different, but many want similar to what i listed above...Thats why they sell MILLIONS of them per year... A "REAL TRUCK" is what suits your needs.
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Edited by steve(ill) - 12 Nov 2023 at 8:15am
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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Posted: 12 Nov 2023 at 10:53am |
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Gotta roll with the times-- but this will be a clown show ,, all of this - Ford already expects to lose BILLIONS on Ev BS,,
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Posted: 12 Nov 2023 at 11:56am |
DougG wrote:
Gotta roll with the times-- but this will be a clown show ,, all of this - Ford already expects to lose BILLIONS on Ev BS,, |
Where are the stockholders who should be raising holy h*ll at stockholders meetings, demanding an end to such tom foolery? Why are mutual fund managers not dropping these companies from portfolios?
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Posted: 12 Nov 2023 at 12:11pm |
steve(ill) wrote:
Every truck is different, just like people and the use of their truck is different.
I get tired of people saying -- a real truck has a one seat cab -- a real truck can pull a 20K trailer -- a real truck gets 8 MPG. -- a real truck drives like a lumber wagon
Well, 90% of "THE TRUCKS" dont fit the above. "MOST" people use a truck these days as a replacement for a station wagon or van. They also want some luxury a and creature comfort ( like a nice car) when they are driving.
I dont need a 20K trailer hauler.. Maybe 10% of my time is pulling a trailer, and 90% of that is a car trailer or Bobcat trailer at 8,000 pounds... YES, i have pulled a 12K trailer, but that is seldom and i dont really have that need... What i do need is a CREW CAB... What i do need is 18 MPG when on the highway... What i do need is comfort for my old bones when driving over an hour... What i do need is 4 x 4 to go thru the corn field or woods when needed.... What i do need is something that will haul a dozen sheets of plywood or 25 - 12 ft 2x4.
Some people need different, but many want similar to what i listed above...Thats why they sell MILLIONS of them per year... A "REAL TRUCK" is what suits your needs.
2013 F150 Lariat , 4x4, 3.5L turbo, 6 speed. short bed.
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Nah, they don’t sell millions. Just ask Jay. Loans and leases don’t count. CASH or no sale 
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Posted: 12 Nov 2023 at 8:20pm |
5 minute Video’s quote; “It could get electric truck fence-sitters, far more excited about the proposition, of picking one up..?” 145 mile electric battery range. So if you’d like to drive into town 25 miles for a few errands & then back home? No gasoline burned. Plug it in at your home’s garage recharge station for a full recharge. But if while you were in town running those errands, your combine operator calls your mobile to ask you to drive an additional 25 miles to your combine equipment dealership & pickup a handful of header sickle guards, sickle sections, & hardware that they’ve already called-in and then please grab us all a few lunch sandwiches on your way back to the combine. So you pickup parts, lunch, and get back to combine. After you’ve eaten your sandwiches, then gotten the header repaired by possibly utilizing the truck’s 7.2kw power panel located inside the truck’s bed to power corded/cordless electric impact drivers, the combine is up & running again. In say another hour or so that field’s harvest is completed, then it’s time for your truck to pull the combine’s detached 30’ header sitting on it’s header cart, to the next field. So if by now the truck’s electric battery is low, its V6 130kw generator combo is ready to power it along so you can finish your long work day & get you back home again. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VOlNLMEB6Mc&pp=ygUQMjAyNSByYW0gY2hhcmdlcg%3D%3D
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Posted: 12 Nov 2023 at 8:43pm |
But it sure ain't Chuck Norris' ramcharger!
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Posted: 13 Nov 2023 at 12:35am |
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and Norris had crank out vent windows, ash trays, steel automobile, knobs that didn't break off in your hand on the steel dash and the whole wad probably cost all of three grand and and could be fixed with a crescent wrench and a greasy rag. Someone asked if Dodge had lost it's mind, my guess is no after seeing some of the window stickers but somebody sure did.
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Posted: 13 Nov 2023 at 7:46am |
Could go lots of ways with this one-but when talking about 1/2 ton-1 ton pickup trucks, I have come with 2 observations- 80% of pickup trucks sold are sold to people with nothing to haul or tow, they have no intentions of using a pickup truck as a pickup truck. They just own/drive one because its a status thing. The other 20% are owned by people who haul WAY more with them than the are legally designed to. I know of a guy that hauled a D6 CAT on the back of a goose neck behind a 3500 Duramax. One of those guys that had the mentality of "It'll pull so I can haul it". Where was DOT at when this guy was going down the road???
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Posted: 13 Nov 2023 at 8:50am |
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probably in the donut shop ? guy left here with 8 slabs of concrete ( bus stop pads) ,so 8' x 20' on a trailer,sunday, backroads to bypass the scales ,had 2, 3" straps on the ENTIRE load....
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Posted: 13 Nov 2023 at 10:17pm |
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Driver, pull around back, bring your logs and step inside please. Says the voice on the loudspeaker.
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Posted: 14 Nov 2023 at 5:05pm |
Let me get this straight, flip it over and its electric?
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Posted: 15 Nov 2023 at 5:48am |
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Experience is a fancy name for past mistakes. "Great moments are born from great opportunity"
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Posted: 20 Nov 2023 at 2:14am |
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My 02 Dodge 2500 4x4 Cummins 5.9 does ride like a class 8 truck. But I bought it to be a truck not a car. I have many a young man want to buy this truck from me I just tell them to come to my funeral
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