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FREEDGUY 
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Posted: 23 Sep 2021 at 6:15pm |
A co worker told me this morning of his BIL's woes  . The poor guy traded in his 2015 Ford F150 with "x miles" on a dealers 2021 F150 with SEVEN miles on the odometer. The poor guy put 8 miles on it and the engine froze up  !! It was towed back to the dealership and diagnosed, faulty "line" installation/torque parameters  !! The parts to repair won't be available for 3-4 MONTHS ?!!? The owner asked for his trade-in back but was informed that it was sold off of the lot while he was signing papers on his new "dead one" WTH Ford ?? BTW, the poor guy paid $52,000 for it AFTER trade
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Posted: 23 Sep 2021 at 6:31pm |
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Well they should provide a loaner when witinGB for his to get repaired
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FREEDGUY
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Posted: 23 Sep 2021 at 7:07pm |
He got a loaner , an Explorer 
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Posted: 23 Sep 2021 at 7:30pm |
P.T. Barnum said it best "There's a sucker born every minute" The nameplate didn't say Found-On-Road-Dead for nothing  $52,000 AFTER trade for a wimpy 1/2 ton? "What a maroon" ( B. Bunny would say)
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Posted: 23 Sep 2021 at 7:34pm |
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YEA.... 2015 had to be worth about $20K ??? and he had to pay ANOTHER $52 K ?? Not much of a deal.
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FREEDGUY
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Posted: 23 Sep 2021 at 8:13pm |
The point is, WHY will it take this poor guy MONTHS to get his buggy repaired ?? The dealership said a "union worker" F/U'ed on the line that will cause the "owner" grief for months. The exploder probably has more cargo capacity though 
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Posted: 23 Sep 2021 at 8:16pm |
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And think what a 2021 can be bought for in late winter! This one will loose several $$ just due to the car fax. I have a hard time with the 52k figure for a half ton anyway. Picked up a 2020 3500 new in late March for the same money without a trade.
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Posted: 23 Sep 2021 at 8:26pm |
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I didnt pay that for a 2000 sq ft house with a 3 car garage !!
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Posted: 23 Sep 2021 at 9:01pm |
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Posted: 23 Sep 2021 at 9:06pm |
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Michigan has a "Lemon Law" he should research it and either get a new truck or his money back.
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Posted: 23 Sep 2021 at 11:15pm |
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With all of the paranoia over COVID, every manufacturer is going to be slow in getting repair parts. With less than 20 miles on it, Ford is going to want that whole engine back instead of forcing the tech to install a short block. With all of the parts shortages, he’s going to have to make a lot of noise to get an engine pulled from the production line.
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Posted: 23 Sep 2021 at 11:25pm |
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I’m on a couple dealership Fakebook pages and right now it’s very difficult to get new vehicles. Many dealers don’t have any new vehicles on the lot right now. Because of this it’s not unusual for a 2-3 year old trade in good condition to bring what it sold for new with 100k on it. Many dealers are also adding a “market adjustment” to the price of the few new vehicles they actually have. Not willing to pay the mark up? You won’t be buying a new car because someone else will pay it and the dealers know it. It’s not a sucker thing, it’s the law of supply and demand. When demand is strong and supply is low, the price is going to be high...
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Posted: 24 Sep 2021 at 12:48am |
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$73k is insane, and I'm guessing that doesn't include taxes, fees and registration.
I'd hate to ask what the annual insurance cost is for that truck...
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Posted: 24 Sep 2021 at 3:51am |
Local dealer managed to get THREE Whole NEW Ford F150s, were gone in a day, all have currently are bought used, NOT trade ins, BOUGHT from previous customers. The dealers in nearby towns all the way into St Louis county are struggling to stay in business as have nothing New to sell to speak of and have been told 2022 models may not come out until the current inventories are depleted that are awaiting chips or other parts from TADA: China. Caterpillar and Deere Industrial dealers have announced to clients they have Limited Inventories of filters and service parts for HE, buy it now or chance not having any in next weeks when the cold snap drops in and maintenance begins full on.
Worries are the stacks of containers sitting outside West Coast shores, undeliverable, are where much of this sits.
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Posted: 24 Sep 2021 at 6:00am |
hmm.. the guy PAYS for a pickup, gets a CAR as the loaner vehicle ???? Man there is NO way I'd accept that,none
BTW insurance companies are going to NOT cover damage due to hail real soon. Over 150 cars/trucks have been reapired in just ONE shop 5 miles down the road. Guys F150 cost 14K canucks for new hood, roof repairs and new tonneau cover. Golfballs have less dimpples than his vacny Aluminum 2 year old truck . Best READ the itty bitty fine print !!!
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Posted: 24 Sep 2021 at 6:45am |
 dee_veloper wrote:
$73k is insane, and I'm guessing that doesn't include taxes, fees and registration.
I'd hate to ask what the annual insurance cost is for that truck...
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Well in Michigan, one thing for sure is it will be HIGH!!! Wild guess, I'd say ~$175/ month? Maybe more? $200?
I have no plans to pay that much for a vehicle.....but people are. When you're in business, you put a price on something, if you sell out, that's a sign you can ask even more. You'd be dumb not to (as a business).
Why can't they get the repair quicker? Same reason it's so hard to get the truck in the first place, the supply chain is completely pooched.
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Posted: 24 Sep 2021 at 6:55am |
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I know this question is off topic some but something I been wondering about. With all these brand new vehicles sitting and waiting for a microchip to be finished and able to be sold, these new vehicles may already be a year old by the time they hit a dealer lot, do you suppose they're going to be highly discounted for quick movement? Then think about people like this guy who paid a premium for his truck and have this happen then say 6 months from now same truck could be bought for 10-15k less!
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Posted: 24 Sep 2021 at 7:08am |
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That is my way of thinking as well. Those 2021 trucks will be very cheap just to clear from the lots, especially around June of 22. This guy may just be getting his repaired truck back. Another thing to consider—- these trucks have been sitting for over 6 months. I doubt maintenance has been competed on a regular schedule for long term storage— rotating engine & trans, condensation preventives etc…
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Posted: 24 Sep 2021 at 7:48am |
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Will depend greatly on what rate of supply the chips begin to come in.
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Posted: 24 Sep 2021 at 8:00am |
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my question is who in the world is paying $50-100K + for a new truck, and why do they need one that bad?
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Posted: 24 Sep 2021 at 8:30am |
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YEP.... a $20- 25K 2015 F150 would look pretty good to the guy right now !!... SHOULD HAVE KEPT IT.
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Posted: 24 Sep 2021 at 9:16am |
LouSWPA wrote:
my question is who in the world is paying $50-100K + for a new truck, and why do they need one that bad? |
Apparently......several thousands of people. When the time comes you truly need a vehicle, well, you truly need a vehicle.
Leases were the way to go to keep your payment and outlay down, now that there's very limited inventory of new, hard to lease another one, you end up buying your leased vehicle at turn in, which is kind of nice for people who can, because their price was locked in at the time of lease. If you don't need the vehicle anymore, you can sell them and make a lot of cash!
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Posted: 24 Sep 2021 at 4:58pm |
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And then again, if the new machines sit too long and decay any at all they will be recycled, Can see the Big Three dumping them thru a shredder, WRITE OFF.
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Posted: 24 Sep 2021 at 6:33pm |
LouSWPA wrote:
my question is who in the world is paying $50-100K + for a new truck, and why do they need one that bad? |
Have you "personally " priced one recently ???
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Posted: 24 Sep 2021 at 6:48pm |
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Do not need one currently, do you?
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Posted: 24 Sep 2021 at 7:16pm |
I can safely say with certainty "I'll NEVER EVER buy another new vehicle" let alone a FORD to only have it die driving it home the first time. Someone would have to be desperate to pay $50K + for a 1/2 tone Daddys pwetty widdle truwk 
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Posted: 24 Sep 2021 at 7:54pm |
Prices start about $30,000. You can get a decent NEW F150 for about $40,000.. all depends if you want a STD cab or bigger.... 6.5 ft bed or 8 ft.... its the BELLS and WHISTLES that cost the other $35,000.. if you want it to wipe your ass and tuck you in an night, you got to pay for that.
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Posted: 24 Sep 2021 at 9:32pm |
xlt, reg cab, 6.5box, v8 is about $42000 up here, top end 4d,4wd all options in is just over $100K( burns rubber real good BTW....) and... I can't buy a 2WD RANGER in Canada . Not allowed to import from USA either. You can only buy what THEY want to sell you NOT what YOU need....
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Posted: 25 Sep 2021 at 4:56am |
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So true Jay
Dealer salesman I used to buy thru explained the purchase of lot stock to me long ago. Spot a trend of buyers as to requests then load the lot stock as that plus a little more options, customers will find what they seek and pay a little more for the added bells and whistles, just had to limit to one or two with All the B&Ws as would be slower to move.
Stock rotation was the big game, special orders took weeks to months where now are generally nonexistent or not supported as factories are on schedules as materials are ordered months in advance.
Edited by DMiller - 25 Sep 2021 at 7:09am
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. I had heard the prices went up, guess there are suckers.
