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BLee Mn 
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Posted: 22 Oct 2019 at 7:43pm |
just seeing what you guys use to apply vinyl decals? water, soapy water, windex? finishing up a 185 and time for decals. thanks
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Sugarmaker
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Posted: 22 Oct 2019 at 8:11pm |
BLee, I am sure not the expert. But I had better luck on my last Mylar type by masking taping them in position on one side and using the masking tape as a hinge to lift the decal up and then peal the backing off. Letting the decal down in one controlled unit. I have seen the soapy water thing and for some reason my mind just cant go there. sticky decals and water to me dont seam to be the right combo? But I have never tried it? So it may work fine? Hoping you get some good suggestions. I also looked on line and found some info on the hinge method also. We will need some before and after pictures too! No pressure!  I had to do my hood decals over on both sides due to boo boos the first time (I did not use the hinge method the first time) I will throw in some pictures of the 45 which I know will not be like your 185. Hinge on top only for this long decal:
backing pulled off while masking is holding the decal:
Regards, Chris
Edited by Sugarmaker - 22 Oct 2019 at 8:18pm
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MDWilliams338
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Posted: 22 Oct 2019 at 8:49pm |
Chris...I think I’ve said before masking like you did is how I’ve done most of ours ,also which is how I did graphics on my race cars.However on the D17 we finished a few months ago I used soap/water in a spray bottle along with my daughter Harley because of the size and just the flippity floppity nature of the longer decals.The trick I found is not too much spray ,just enough to dampen whatever your applying the vinyl too...the more water ,the more ya got to squeegee out. Essentially the same technique when doing window tint.And a good rubber squeegee,nothing that will mark or deface the decal.  @BLee since you have a 185 with long but narrow decals you could probably do it with masking,especially if you have extra hands to help you if you’re not cool with soap & water. Just be for sure you put them on the correct side...I’ve seen some of the 100 series tractors that folks put decals on the wrong sides.And by no means I’m an expert either,this is just what I’ve found that works for me.
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Pat the Plumber CIL
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Posted: 22 Oct 2019 at 8:57pm |
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When I was a youngster I wanted to apply a cool radio station bumper sticker to my car . A friend of my dad said to spray windex on it , apply sticker and squeegee out as much windex as you can .Slide bumper sticker until lined up straight . I said wont it mess the glue up . He replied see if you can pull it off once it dries. Everything else fell off that car , bet that sticker is still on it .
When I worked for Roto Rooter the boss bought 2 new vans and got new lettering decals for the vans . He told me to put them on . When he saw me spray windex he freaked out. He let me finish one and he did the other . Mine turned out way better and lasted longer .
I would be leary with expensive decals , use manufacturers recommendations or experiment if kit comes with extras or a decal you dont plan on using
Edited by Pat the Plumber CIL - 22 Oct 2019 at 9:00pm
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DSeries4
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Posted: 22 Oct 2019 at 9:22pm |
Definitely NOT Windex. I get the local sign maker in town come
out to put decals on. I buy good quality vinyl decals (from Maple
Hunter). She sprays water with only a few drops of dish soap.
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spent almost an hour putting the decals on the 190XT and she only
charged me $30. A small price to pay for a professional job!
Edited by DSeries4 - 22 Oct 2019 at 9:22pm
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Posted: 22 Oct 2019 at 9:37pm |
I love the look when they get the decals in place! Nice job guys! Cant wait to see the photos from BLee! Regards, Chris |
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plummerscarin
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Posted: 23 Oct 2019 at 12:10pm |
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Thirty years ago the boss had me put door signs on a truck he just using the soapy water method. Squeegee the solution out and they stayed the duration he owned that rig. Before that I tinted windows in my car using Windex. It is still there today. I installed most of the decals for clients when I worked at CEI. There I leaned the dry method using the tape as a hinge. On long or large decals I the hinge was used to apply one half at a time. On a painted surface I used light pressure to cut the backing and not the paint.. The dry method is much cleaner provided you have the decal in proper position first. I always used a new Bondo spreader paddle to lay it on working from the center out. If you get an air bubble, use a pin to poke a tiny hole to release the air and push flat. Avoid pullingtoo hard to prevent stretching
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Posted: 23 Oct 2019 at 12:27pm |
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I can remember watching employees installing wide Hood Stripes on new Chevy and GMC Trucks back in the 70's.
They just used 'Soapy Water' and the Stripe would nearly slide off the hood until they used a small plastic squeegee working from the centre out.
Gary
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Posted: 23 Oct 2019 at 2:57pm |
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Either method works. It's what you're comfortable with. The wet method gives you a chance to shift if necessary without messing up the decal.
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Calvin Schmidt
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Posted: 23 Oct 2019 at 7:56pm |
I done both the dry hinge method and the wet with a drop or two of soap. Both work well. Need a proper squeegee to get the bubbles out. Easier with the wet method.
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