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    Posted: 20 Mar 2017 at 6:08pm
All right I put a post out there that I am restoring a 1935 wc unstyled I asked what kind of paint should I get the only answer that I got back was a Persian number one but I don't really know where to get that I don't want to use your local farm supply paint but our local body shop looks at me crazy. I also really don't want to do a lot of buffing clear wet sanding and all that a good single stage would be fine but what do you all recommend to use
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Thanks Ryan
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You need to find a PPG store.  PO #1 is 600080 I think  
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I used NAPA Martin Senour paint for my WD45. Acrylic enamel single stage. All the paint codes should be in the knowledgebase. Mine accidentally ended up being PO2, but it does look nice. I didn't know there were all these color differences at the time.
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Buy a lot of PO #1, it don't cover very well...Wink
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Are you talking about the ppg orJust in general
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Originally posted by Ryan T Ryan T wrote:

Are you talking about the ppg orJust in general

In general.  Orange of any color is hard to get to cover...Wink
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The PPG paint that I get from Merlin Boshart at Amac is excellent paint. Good coverage and applies very well using 8:1:1 ratio. I recommend low temp fast dry this time of year. It allows 10 minute flash time dry and then your ready for the next coat. $95/gal plus shipping. He has i believe 25 years experience in restoring AC tractors. I'm using PO#2 for my 190XT but I am sure he has PO#1 also.
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Got to a PPG dealer and purchase Omni - #60080 [Persian orange #1].  Omni is a lower priced brand carried by PPG.  It is also single stage urethane and easy to apply. Depending on how clean your finished job is (dust or dirt nibs), you probably won't need to buff it.
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buy a gallon 
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If you're going to use Omni, you may not need a full gallon.  Omni has a hardner and the mix ratio is 4:1:1, meaning  four parts paint, one part hardner, one part reducer. Since Omni is pretty thin, I'd would use only half the reducer.

 I think 3 quarts would be enough, as Omni recommends 2-coats. I would first apply a medium gray (non-sanding) sealer as a base, (one quart should be enough), then paint over it.  Since you catalize the paint, any left over cannot be returned to the can, but must be thrown away, as it will only have about an 8 hr pot life, so it's okay to mix on the "short" side and mix more as you need it. 

I would recommend getting a couple mixing cups when you buy the paint. The mixing cups will have several mixing ratios printed on it, so you won't have any math to figure out. As far as the hardner and reducer, unless your painting in temp over 80F, I'd go with the fast reducer.
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  Hey Ryan,,,,,by all means, plan on spraying a Primer/Sealer before you shoot the color. The reds tend to not cover very well and the sealer provides a good base for the color. Go to Harbor Freight and buy one of their HVLP gravity flow paint guns. I think they are less than $20 and will save you lots of paint due to their high transfer rate and low overspray.
   I used TSC's "Allis Chalmers Orange" with the hardner and have gotten great results on two AC's so far. I have no idea how "close" their paint is to the original AC orange but if you're lookin to get a nice lookin paint job without spending a ton of money,,I would check out the TSC paint.
 If you are doing a complete, I would get a gallon pail and mix up half of the gallon of paint with their required hardner and reducer. Reason is,,,the transfer rate on the HVLP guns is very high compared to the old style suction guns and you will use lots less paint for the same amount of coverage. The pot life with the hardner will be 3-5 hours dependin on the ambient temp and humidity, so,,if something happens and you can't finish,,,you won't have to throw away most of your paint,,,,,,Wink,,,and,,,don't forget to clean out the gun,,,,or it will be useless if paint hardens in it,,,,
  Hope this helps you,,,,Clap
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Good advice Joe. Another little trick is put your left over paint and gun in the frig. and you can extend the spraying life somewhat.
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Awesome advice thanks so much. The tractor has been completely took apart and blasted and primed. Replacing seals and gaskets now. Then should be ready to trim in and start to reasonable. Thanks again
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