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AJ 
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Posted: 02 Jan 2017 at 10:14pm |
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Steering shaft out of my IB. It has some rough edges. Dont think thats gonna work. Does a regular B have the same as the IB?
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shameless (ne)
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Posted: 02 Jan 2017 at 10:16pm |
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grind them down?
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Posted: 02 Jan 2017 at 10:47pm |
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grind them down?
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How would that help? There are chunks missing from the edges, gonna be hell on the pivot shaft after I rebuild the steering box.
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Posted: 02 Jan 2017 at 10:55pm |
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oh....I didn't know it was missing iron, thoughts it was outward rough stuff!
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Posted: 03 Jan 2017 at 5:48am |
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Parts book shows different numbers. BUT...it looks like the only difference is the length. I'm thinking you could buy one for a B with the gearbox you have and cut it down. Would need a new key way milled in the steering wheel end.
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Posted: 03 Jan 2017 at 5:50am |
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A pic would be nice so we could see what you are looking at
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Posted: 03 Jan 2017 at 6:32am |
Not sure why it didnt load the first time. 
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Posted: 03 Jan 2017 at 6:37am |
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Ah ha, it's the worm gear that's chipped. I was thinking it was the actual shaft and couldn't see how that would affect anything unless it's at the seal area. I think you may be right looking for another shaft. I'm sure that one would work for a long time but it'll be sloppy at some points. I wonder if a good welding shop could repair it?
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Posted: 03 Jan 2017 at 6:47am |
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I think I would grab a B gearshaft and cut it down.
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Posted: 03 Jan 2017 at 6:49am |
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I think I would grab a B gearshaft and cut it down. |
Yea, that's what I'm hoping to avoid. Are the early B steering shafts the same worm groove?
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Posted: 03 Jan 2017 at 7:59am |
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I too was thinking what Lonn was
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Posted: 03 Jan 2017 at 9:38am |
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Weld it up, get your dremel out, and grind it back down! I've fixed a lot of combine sprockets that way lol
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Posted: 03 Jan 2017 at 6:06pm |
I'm no expert, but b's and c's used one of 2 types, either Ross or Gemmer. Take a look on the housing, to see who made it, then start your search... 
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Posted: 04 Jan 2017 at 2:18pm |
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AJ, new posting over on YT under "Discussions-Allis Chalmers" with a fella seeking info on an old truck with a ROSS shaft/bearings. May want to follow that post and see if anyone jumps on with parts source info as I find some good info over there sometimes.
You may get lucky . . . .
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Posted: 04 Jan 2017 at 5:50pm |
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What's YT?
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Posted: 04 Jan 2017 at 6:49pm |
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Posted: 04 Jan 2017 at 7:53pm |
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Oh, OK I looked it up, miss kim selling chinese repro parts...
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Posted: 04 Jan 2017 at 9:37pm |
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there are two different gear boxes used on the B tractor, the Ross and the GEEMER.. They have different internals, but the complete box can be interchanged on the tractor. The IB uses the same "Box", but the shaft is several inches shorter. Best way to make a B into an IB is to cut the shaft in half at the middle, remove the several inches, and slide each half back into a 1/2 inch piece of pipe about 4 inches long and socket weld each end......... I have done this several times.
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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Posted: 04 Jan 2017 at 9:58pm |
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The IB has a different rake to the box to accomidate for the short length from a regular B. I just need a good worm gear and I can do the rest.
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Posted: 04 Jan 2017 at 9:59pm |
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Mine is a Ross by the way
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Posted: 05 Jan 2017 at 7:22am |
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AJ, are you in a hurry? I took a Ross apart on my C, (1940) and changed it out because the pin was shot. Swapped the whole thing out. I have it up at the farm but I won't be going up for about a week. I NEVER throw anything away, so I probably still have it. I can look if you want.
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Posted: 05 Jan 2017 at 7:31am |
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Thanks Ted but the worm gear on a C is backwards to a B. I have several really nice C shafts with worm gears on them. The B ones seem to be hard to find. Not sure why since allis made 120,000 of these. You'd think they would be easier to find. I may be buying an NOS one from Paul.
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