AC Hammer Mill?

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   At the Cascade auction this past Saturday, I purchased what I think is an AC hammer mill for $30.00 (there was two of them) but I am not sure it is exactly that.  In the picture below (taken by IBWD Mike) it is the cone shape object above the C sickle mower.  Does anybody have any information on them?  It is PTO driven, wheeled frame with a tray that slopes down to something that looks like a silo blower, then goes up a short chute to the cone shaped object then I think cracked corn is bagged from there.

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Cernunnos Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 30 Jul 2014 Location: Ridgeland, WI Points: 361	Post Options Post Reply Quote Cernunnos Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: AC Hammer Mill? Posted: 25 Sep 2016 at 7:33pm
	At the Cascade auction this past Saturday, I purchased what I think is an AC hammer mill for $30.00 (there was two of them) but I am not sure it is exactly that. In the picture below (taken by IBWD Mike) it is the cone shape object above the C sickle mower. Does anybody have any information on them? It is PTO driven, wheeled frame with a tray that slopes down to something that looks like a silo blower, then goes up a short chute to the cone shaped object then I think cracked corn is bagged from there.
	1951 CA, 1952 CA with cultivator, 20 Series 8' disc harrow, 2 bottom pick-up plow, forage blower, 2-row rear mounted drill corn planter, Allcrop grain drill, No. 80T sickle mower, MN No. 130 barge box

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CrestonM Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8448	Post Options Post Reply Quote CrestonM Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 Sep 2016 at 8:27pm
	I don't think Allis made many hammermills. Only thing close to Allis I can think of are the rare GleaCo grinders, but I think they were belt driven, not PTO. (In Swinford's book) If that's what this is, it's pretty rare. I've never seen one, and I think they only made a few hundred. They were designed to be ran by a WC, but could be ran by a B or C at reduced capacity. Yours might be a Case? That cone thing is called a dust collector, by the way, or that's what we've always called it. The part that looks like a blower...well that's part right. There's a big "cylinder"-like object that grinds up the grain until it falls through a grate with certain size holes. Once it goes through the holes (at least on mine) it is augered into a fan, which blows it up the stack and into the dust collector. One of mine is rather short and has a bagging attachment on the bottom, the other is taller and designed to fill a truck. Yours is not designed for bagging, it's too tall and lacks the bagging attachment on the bottom. It's just 2 chutes with a lever to switch which shoot the ground feed goes into. As far as the sloped tray, that's where the grain goes in. On mine, there's a slide door that you can set to regulate how much goes in. I have two belt driven F&H hammermills, but I can't find any information on them. If you could get some better pics, that would be great! Including one of the serial number tag, if it has one. Edited by CrestonM - 25 Sep 2016 at 8:43pm

VAfarmboy Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 06 Dec 2013 Location: Virginia Points: 470	Post Options Post Reply Quote VAfarmboy Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 Sep 2016 at 8:38pm
	Does it have any markings on it? AC probably made hammer mills. I know JD and IH both did. Back when I was a kid we had one made by Fairbanks Morse that ran off the belt pulley on the tractor.

Cernunnos Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 30 Jul 2014 Location: Ridgeland, WI Points: 361	Post Options Post Reply Quote Cernunnos Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 Sep 2016 at 9:31pm
	It does have the older diamond shape AC sticker but that may have been added later. The galvanized dust collector looks like it was painted orange a long time ago. Thanks for all the research Creston...I'll take a few close up pictures real soon.
	1951 CA, 1952 CA with cultivator, 20 Series 8' disc harrow, 2 bottom pick-up plow, forage blower, 2-row rear mounted drill corn planter, Allcrop grain drill, No. 80T sickle mower, MN No. 130 barge box

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Michael V (NM) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: NM Points: 2444	Post Options Post Reply Quote Michael V (NM) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 Sep 2016 at 9:51pm
	Looks to me like a Wetmore hammer mill

shameless (ne) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 08 Jul 2016 Location: nebraska Points: 7463	Post Options Post Reply Quote shameless (ne) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 Sep 2016 at 12:36am
	ohhhhh....mannnnn....do I remember them damn things! now...as they did do a good job grinding up ear corn and some hay, but was noisy and if you didn't duck back after throwing in a scoup of ear corn, you might be wearing some of it as some came back out the same place it went in....only FASTER! and if you did grind some hay with them, you had to puts it in slow and in small slices or it would plug and throw the belt off! now....it took me and others about 10- years when we was young and still living at home to figger out why we always had to grind ear corn the very next morning after coming home the night before from have a few beers! o-k,,,o-k...quite a few beers! whew! that was worse than gittin a butt chew'in! whew!

Cernunnos Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 30 Jul 2014 Location: Ridgeland, WI Points: 361	Post Options Post Reply Quote Cernunnos Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 Sep 2016 at 10:16am
	Looks like MichaelV from NM solved my hammer mill mystery. It appears to be a Wetmore hammer mill from Tonkawa, OK which sold out to United Farm Tools in the 1960's which then was bought out by AGCO so I guess that makes it a distant cousin to Allis Chalmers. Thanks for all the help. This is one similar to mine.
	1951 CA, 1952 CA with cultivator, 20 Series 8' disc harrow, 2 bottom pick-up plow, forage blower, 2-row rear mounted drill corn planter, Allcrop grain drill, No. 80T sickle mower, MN No. 130 barge box

DiyDave Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Gambrills, MD Points: 53330	Post Options Post Reply Quote DiyDave Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 Sep 2016 at 5:57pm
	That cone shaped object is a dust collector, for collecting the fine powder, and adding it back into the cracked corn...