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    Posted: 19 Jul 2016 at 12:14am
Has anyone hauled an allcrop 90 on a flatbed trailer, or would anyone be interested in hauling it from Iowa to Missouri?
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how far ya gotta go? JohnCo pulled his home lots of miles!
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I pulled mine about 80 miles. They're really too wide to bit on a trailer, but you might be able to make it work as a wide load if you got it blocked up correctly. I've seen pictures on allcropharvestor.com of them load sideway on a trailer with the tongue and header off.
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Your quandary begs this question. "How were these pull behind combines delivered when they were new?" I imagine most local dealerships delivered them to farms by pulling them there? But how did they get from their freight delivery train to the dealerships?
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Originally posted by AC7060IL AC7060IL wrote:

Your quandary begs this question. "How were these pull behind combines delivered when they were new?" I imagine most local dealerships delivered them to farms by pulling them there? But how did they get from their freight delivery train to the dealerships?
Trailers were just wider back then than they are today! LOL
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Good to see the old bagger| One I grew up on had a wooden seat. It was delivered by rail knocked down.Dad took WC and pulled it home and he and uncle finish the assemble of it I think it is a 47 and it is still in the shed.All Crop 60
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I think they were delivered knocked down like wfmurray said. Why else would the operator's manual have 14 pages of assembly instructions?
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All our local dealers that I know of had a railway running through town. Peterson Implement owners told me they came knocked down by rail. They would set them up (install header) at the unloading area at the rail yard and then pull them to the dealership to finish set up. They had an old late 40something or early 50something Chevy pickup that had an offset hitch from which they pulled them. They still had the pickup in the shed and it still got ran every year to run errands from time to time when I worked there. They delivered All Crops to farmers with that pickup. Wish I had it today. It was in perfect shape yet in the early 1990's.


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I just pull them home
35 combines and 15 forage harvesters. mostly allis combines and equipment.WTB 2 row cornhead for a 90
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Unfortunately it's 190 miles. I don't know if I would want to pull it that far. He said its 8'11" inside the wheels and 10'4" outside, so it would probably straddle the trailer. I don't know how they are built on the bottom, but winching it up without tearing it up may be hard to do. I've been looking for one for a long time, and found this one priced reasonable, but may be to difficult getting it home.
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My soil finisher is 14.5 feet wide folded up towed it 340 miles home. Take off at sun up on a Sunday you will be good to go.
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If the seller has a tractor with a front end loader, he may be able to pick it up and set it on the trailer.

Or....
Here's a method I've wanted to try...get two 2"x12"x10', and lay one crossways at the bottom of the ramp. Pull the combine up onto the board, then set the other board in front of the board the combine is on. Winch it up onto the 2nd board, then move the first one in front of that. Keep doing that until it is up on the trailer, then chain it down good. 


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A fast running tractor could get you home in a day with no problems from the law. On a Sunday like someone suggested on the back roads I don't think anyone would be bothered very bad. If you've been looking for some time for one, they're not getting any more plentiful. Keep'er greased and let'er fly.
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Funny you should ask.  I picked up, hauled, assembled, and delivered the 60's and 66's.
Remember this is from memory only.  For some reason or other we did not take pictures
When they were delivered there were about 6 on a railroad flatcar.  They were disassembled with the header mounted straight up.  Sides were not on the header.  Drawbar was not on the combine.  We sold mostly baggers so that was not assembled. 
When we went to pick them up we made arrangements for most of the dealers who were getting them to be present so we had manpower.  If it was close we mounted the wheels and drawbar and towed them home - not much more than ten miles.  Since our area was very rural at the time the Police were most helpful. 
When we had to haul them we put them on planks and dragged them on the truck longways and drove home.  When we got there we drove to a loading dock, put on the wheels and drawbar and towed it off the truck.  Some brave souls would mount two on the truck with it hanging over each side.  Sometimes it worked.  Sometimes it did not and the Police would stop you.
We used to tow them to the customers assembled pulling them with a F-1 1948 Ford pickup.  They were hitched as far as possible to the right side of the rear tow bar.  Made for an interesting tow since it you got over 30 MPH it would start to whipsaw.  Coming down steep hills was very interesting. 
I remember towing one when stopped by a Policeman.  He asked "how wide are you son"  I replied "little over 8' ".  He came back with a grin and said "how about 12' 6"?  Let me go after talking to my father.  It was farm equipment.
One time during WWII some farmers came with their tractor and towed them home - it was harvest time and they needed them   Was on the Fourth of July.  We found some US flags and mounted them on the combines.  Interesting to see them go.
We did not have things like a skip loader, portapower jacks and the like.  However we made do with what we had.
Hope this is some help.
Sorry I got so windy.  Brought back a lot of memories.
Good Luck!
Bill Long

On an aside during WWII you could get no help   I was nine years old and was put to work assembling combines.  Mounting the header was the problem though.  We would get it ready and wait for the High School Bus to come.  We would get the Students to help us - boys and girls.  They picked up the header off the horses and moved it into position for us to mount it.  It was our part in "fitin" the War

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I hauled a 90 on a rollback truck before.  It was a really wide load.  It was years ago before DOT patrol was ever thought of. 
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How is Iowa DOT to get along with on over width? Missouri is pretty good, but I've heard Iowa and especially Illinois don't even like farmers hauling grain with out of state plates. If it doesn't work out for me I hope someone else takes it. He said if no one buys it he may just cut it up for scrap, and the thing has set in a shed most of its life it looks like.
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Bill, I'm sure I speak for everyone here that we enjoy reading your posts and info from your memories!!! Never too windy for us!!

In Omaha on our way to Hutch. Wish you were going to be there!!

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Armand,  Would LOVE to see you there.  Seems like just yesterday when we met at "coming home".  I still treasure that picture my son took with you, me, and Dave Maddox.
If I remember correctly you brought a model you made of a WC grader for delivery to one of your many friends.
By the way,  I am making arrangements to get a shirt or two from Hutch.  If you see anything else I may be interested in ask if they could contact me with costs and pictures.
Take good care my friend.
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Originally posted by Bill Long Bill Long wrote:

Funny you should ask.  I picked up, hauled, assembled, and delivered the 60's and 66's.
Remember this is from memory only.  For some reason or other we did not take pictures
When they were delivered there were about 6 on a railroad flatcar.  They were disassembled with the header mounted straight up.  Sides were not on the header.  Drawbar was not on the combine.  We sold mostly baggers so that was not assembled. 
When we went to pick them up we made arrangements for most of the dealers who were getting them to be present so we had manpower.  If it was close we mounted the wheels and drawbar and towed them home - not much more than ten miles.  Since our area was very rural at the time the Police were most helpful. 
When we had to haul them we put them on planks and dragged them on the truck longways and drove home.  When we got there we drove to a loading dock, put on the wheels and drawbar and towed it off the truck.  Some brave souls would mount two on the truck with it hanging over each side.  Sometimes it worked.  Sometimes it did not and the Police would stop you.
We used to tow them to the customers assembled pulling them with a F-1 1948 Ford pickup.  They were hitched as far as possible to the right side of the rear tow bar.  Made for an interesting tow since it you got over 30 MPH it would start to whipsaw.  Coming down steep hills was very interesting. 
I remember towing one when stopped by a Policeman.  He asked "how wide are you son"  I replied "little over 8' ".  He came back with a grin and said "how about 12' 6"?  Let me go after talking to my father.  It was farm equipment.
One time during WWII some farmers came with their tractor and towed them home - it was harvest time and they needed them   Was on the Fourth of July.  We found some US flags and mounted them on the combines.  Interesting to see them go.
We did not have things like a skip loader, portapower jacks and the like.  However we made do with what we had.
Hope this is some help.
Sorry I got so windy.  Brought back a lot of memories.
Good Luck!
Bill Long

On an aside during WWII you could get no help   I was nine years old and was put to work assembling combines.  Mounting the header was the problem though.  We would get it ready and wait for the High School Bus to come.  We would get the Students to help us - boys and girls.  They picked up the header off the horses and moved it into position for us to mount it.  It was our part in "fitin" the War

My father used to tell us as a kid he remembered seeing allcrop combines on railcars as far as he could see at the railroad siding in town. That would be a cool picture. Ryan
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I've hauled 2- 72's home this spring. My trailer is 102 wide and we had to lay planks down on the ramps because they weren't wide enough, and pushed them up with a Bobcat. Hauled 1 about 250 mile and the other 150.
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Very interesting story Bill. I like hearing about the history and people that made it happen. Thanks for all the helpful information everyone.
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where in iowa is it sitting?  i have one pulled it 25 miles it does take up a lot of the road i figure if a new johndeere can run down the road with 8 and 12 row heads on go right ahead they do all the time up here dosnt bother these guys a bit.  it takes 5 mins to take them off but they wont where a peterbuilt when ou need on on on comming hill?

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About 3-4 years ago I sold a model 90 to  a gentleman who lived 65 miles east of St. Joe Mo. He picked it up in Omaha on a deck over the wheel gooseneck on a Sunday morning and followed state roads home and was home late That night.
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65 miles east of St Joe is getting really close to me. This one is east of Des Moines.
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I hauled mine home to Deer Park WA, from Illinois on my 25 foot deck over gooseneck.  Took me less than 3 days.  Put it on sideways without the header or tongue attached.  Did not stick over the deck at all.  Will be putting it back together this summer and using for wheat next fall.  Did not have any problems with DOT in any of the states that I drove through.

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if I can drive a machine shed down a road, you should have no problem hauling a little combine!
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Do ya know any of the commercial harvesters?

Maybe use/rent one of there combine trailers?
I think they are a lot wider...

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Speaking of Iowa



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