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Jim Lindemood 
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 Topic: Help - 185 Electrical???
Posted: 08 Jun 2010 at 7:39am |
Have a 185 that won't turnover. Was working fine- parked in barn after bushhogging.
Next day, went to start and it gave a little growl but not turn over. Tried again and just got a click. Next try absolutely nothing happened. Red light comes on when turn key on.
Cleaned all battery terminals, tried jumping from truck -- still not even a sound.
I am looking for suggestion, ideas where to start. Need tractor for round baling hay - soon. Thought it might be a solenoid issue - AGCO dealership sent a new one, and it is not the same as the one on tractor (won't fit). Not sure that would have resolved the problem. What do you think? Man, feel like I'm under that little rain cloud. Still have not resolved the 5030 lift issue and now this. My two dependable tractors.
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Burgie
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Posted: 08 Jun 2010 at 7:43am |
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Jim, It is usually that saftey switch on the clutch. You can jump the solinoid on the starter. Had it happen to the on I had.
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JC-WI
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Posted: 08 Jun 2010 at 8:09am |
If you were in brush bush hogging, Its what burgie says. Did you try just jumping from cold post on solenoid? If no sparks try putting the hot jumper cable on post on starter. If nothing there, then its starter problems.
Clean the connections on the solenoid that sits on the starter, I have had to do that on my XT's too. Quick test, take a screw driver and make contact between hot post and switch terminal on solenoid, should start cranking. If it does , then its in the switch circuit. If nothing happens then try sticking screwdriver in between cable lug nuts on solenoid and make a quick contact and hold. (make sure the tractors out of gear) If tractor starts, then you have bad solenoid. Also check the strap that goes from solenoid to starter.
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skipwelte
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Posted: 08 Jun 2010 at 11:11am |
If its not the neutral safety switch, check the battery connections and at the starter. Its probably that miserable Lucas starter gave up the ghost!!
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JC-WI
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Posted: 08 Jun 2010 at 11:24am |
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They had them Lucass starters on them? Why did they switch away from Delco? Were they to bullet proof compared to others or were the lucas cheaper?
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skipwelte
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Posted: 08 Jun 2010 at 12:00pm |
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200s, 185s, 7000s had that miserable Lucas. Why did they switch-they were cheaper, and belive me they were cheap junk, but the parts werent cheap!!!!! The field winding wouold short out, what a miserble job replaceing the fields.
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JC-WI
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Posted: 08 Jun 2010 at 4:03pm |
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SO what starter would you put in to replace them if you had a choice.
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AllisFreak MN
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Posted: 08 Jun 2010 at 4:19pm |
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If you try starting it with a screwdriver make darn sure it's in neutral so it doesn't run you over! Had that happen to a neighbor and it killed him.
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skipwelte
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Posted: 08 Jun 2010 at 4:29pm |
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JC Id get a Delco in place of the Lucas, the Delco is longer, but on a 185 I dont think here are any clearance issues. On a 200 you have to take the fuel filter or primer pump off to slide it in.
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JoeO(CMO)
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Posted: 08 Jun 2010 at 8:10pm |
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could be bad battery('s)
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DSeries4
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Posted: 08 Jun 2010 at 9:27pm |
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My 190 had a bad wire in the wiring harness that went from the key switch to the solenoid. After running a new wire, it works perfectly.
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