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Kiwi
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Topic: The world todayPosted: 05 Apr 2026 at 8:54pm |
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Hi all with the war go on I am just trying to get a handle on what is happening with the grain industry around the world here in New Zealand and in Canterbury we have just finished the most challenging harvest I can remember it has been a very wet summer / hail storms some of the ryegrass and clover crops have been abandoned and left to rot in the paddocks . Going in to the winter planting which is now farmers are struggling to know what to do the diesel prices have gone from $ 1.65 a litre to $ 3.70 since the war got started the price of wheat is $ 450-500 a ton and fertiliser prices are now starting to go up farmers are just not going to plant wheat . I read a report last week that Brazil has cut it’s wheat planting by 40% on two years ago for the same reason we are I am hearing mixed reports of Australia were farmers are find it hard to get the diesel they need for planting would love someone from Australia to chime in with there thoughts .what is the grain industry doing in the USA and are we heading for a world wheat shortage.
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Acguywill
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Posted: 05 Apr 2026 at 10:40pm |
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My 2 cents, I don't think there will be a wheat shortage. And even if there is wheat will remain near it's current pathetic price. Simply because the world governments are worried about food inflation and will do whatever is necessary to keep basic sustenance foods at low prices to keep the masses from revolting. Is the price you quoted in kiwi bucks per 2000 lbs? The price here in western Canada is about $297 canadian per metric tonne delivered to the elevator for no.1 hard red spring wheat. Latest price for farm diesel I have heard is $1.71 per liter.
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IBWD MIke
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Posted: Yesterday at 5:36am |
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My prediction; There is going to be a 'correction' in the ag business, here in the states anyway. You can not have input costs this high with commodity and land prices where they are. The coop's seem completely unapologetic about it. They quoted me $200/acre to put on dry fertilizer! Think about that, that's 50 bushels of 4 dollar/bushel corn per acre to pay for that 1 input! Last year, between the wind and the Southern Rust my corn made about 165 BPA. That dry fertilizer. is going to eat 1/3 of the yield.
Long story short, skipping the dry this year. We'll see how it goes.
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jaybmiller
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Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Greensville,Ont Points: 25274 |
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Posted: Yesterday at 7:14am |
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I honestly don't know HOW farmers actually make ANY money FARMING ! Huge 'input' cost, LONG hours, roll of the dice IF crop comes in and sells for a little p profit. I know you love the land but yeesh HOW can you survive ?? Looked at getting a parcel to London, England. Canada post wants $172 to ship it(kinda heavy and big). so not too bad THEN they ADD a $36 fuel surcharge on top ! BTW diesel is hovering around $2.30 per liter,so about $7 US /USG |
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DMiller
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Posted: Yesterday at 7:57am |
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IBWD, it is already begun. For those working on Fraying shoestrings, the costs for this season, the inability to purchase the required volumes of UREA or other Petro developed Fertilizers or Pest Sprays, the considerations for planting a likely designed to fail crop is not looking well for General Farming. Many around us are moving to Beef or other stock alignment, raise the low input Premium Grasses they can graze on, perhaps some level of Nutrient loaded ensilage fodder but not much for Harvestable Crops.
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TedN
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Posted: Yesterday at 9:31am |
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What I observe locally is most farms that are still in business have expanded and survived on smaller margins spread over more acres which has worked for many years. It has also raised prices for ground both purchase and rent to the point it really isn't possible to get a start unless you have help. With multiple inputs making huge jumps this year I don't see the large operations making any money, but they have expanded to the point that the processors have to have them. 2006 was the last year I worked full time in agriculture and at that time there were 52 potato growers(number from the Washington - Oregon Potato Conference) in the Columbia Basin - Quincy WA south into Oregon. Since then I can think of at least 5 that I have worked with or for that no longer grow potatoes, and that is just in the I90 corridor. I think the next shift we will see is the ownership groups of the processors expanding into the farming side and pushing out even the large operations. I think this will be the year that starts that change.
Reading back through that it seems like doom and gloom, so why keep doing it? My brothers operation that I help with is small, and we had the opportunity to expand this year. We looked at the market and decided against it before the price of everything jumped. Hopefully we made a good decision and are still going next year. Ted |
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IBWD MIke
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Posted: 11 hours 48 minutes ago at 6:52am |
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I think a lot of the why is guys waiting for that next 'good year'. Problem is, you can only absorb so many bad years before the bank comes a calling. I don't borrow any money so not worried about that but would like to make a profit at some point. A big part of the problem is greed on the supply side, especially the fertilizer industry!
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DMiller
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Posted: 10 hours 12 minutes ago at 8:28am |
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Have noted Bank 'Operating Loans' being issued here, several farms failed over last few years and went to receivership sales, did not recover what was lost. Land Sales around Audrain County MO and even around here are slewing DOWN, Pricing is decreasing as those with flowable cash or decent bank structured loans have bought all they can. Old Purchased ground someone bought as investment and since passed away left to the kids are being broken back up in sales where are no longer making great buys, sit on listings far too long ending up on Auctions garnering less than 2/3 previous Lowest value listings.
I suspect are soon to realize a Correction on Land Prices, those that constructed HUGE acreage estates in Standing Trusts are also Dying Off, the remaining trust holders(Children) do not want the expenses, Money or Time, to keep up the properties. Several around here had McMansions built, Millions in Construction Costs, HUGE as to SF and essentially unsaleable except to Mega Millionaires that are already divesting from such.
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Ray54
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Posted: 6 hours 5 minutes ago at 12:35pm |
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In some ways grain market is not reacting as I thought. But have not harvested any grain since 2016, I may not watch close enough. But I expected a jump in prices with the Russian attack on the Ukraine. The market remained flat to lower. No one growing grain here, so now the infrastructure is gone too. We had 2 old time grain faculties. One the 3rd generation retired, and moved away. Another family member killed the sale the faculties, now sit empty. The other was lit on fire with a fire work last 4th of July. As a 1950 wood building, they had been without insurance for 5 years or so. They are going to sell feed made by others. About 60 to 80 miles until the first places to buy or sell any grain now.
As per Dmiller. Here because of wine land prices have not known where the top was. In 2024 wineries still had large inventories of unsold wine at harvest time. Used every excuse possible to reject grapes. In 25 no new contracts could be found for grapes. Many acres possible as high as 20 % to 30% were not picked. No land is moving. It will be interesting to see how it settles out.
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