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Looking for Row Crop Cultivating Advice

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Going to look at and probably buy an Allis Row cultivator today. I played around with AI and it thinks its likely a 6000 or 8000 cultivator, but I don't know much about them or any cultivating in general. Grandpa went no-till in the early 2000s, and I'm not sure the last time any cultivating was done in the family. They (great grandpa) used to use my Farmall H with a mounted cultivator way back. Dad and I are back to turning dirt, and in in effort to get some cost savings on chemicals and such I plan to give this a try. We chisel plow in the fall, and run an AC 1200 FC in the spring with a harrowgator behind it. Then plant with a 6 row 7000 JD. Hoping to cultivate Corn and soybeans. Ill get pics of this thing when i get it home, From the pics I can see it has rolling shields on it. Im looking for advice on how to set it, how to run it, stories from days gone by, anything. Likely to run it on it on our Massey 2607H (MFWD) or the 6080(2wd). Our 8010 is also on 30 inch centers
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For starters, how many acres do you plan on cultivating?
I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science.
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We farm about 50 acres of corn and beans right now. Ill have 5 acres of beans that I will for sure try to cultivate. The rest will be up to Dad. The following year I will have 30 acres of corn plus dads 50 acres of corn/beans.
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Originally posted by Rhoadesy_65 Rhoadesy_65 wrote:

We farm about 50 acres of corn and beans right now. Ill have 5 acres of beans that I will for sure try to cultivate. The rest will be up to Dad. The following year I will have 30 acres of corn plus dads 50 acres of corn/beans.

Gotcha, in my opinion, with those acres, a 6 row narrow cultivator would be more than enough. If possible, do you have access to a narrow front end tractor w/3 pt hitch? The last time I cultivated, used a JI Case 830 Comfort King(diesel) narrow front. As the old saying goes; handier than a shirt pocket.
I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science.
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I should have specified, the one Im looking at is a 6 row currently set on 30s. We have 7010, 6080, 8010, and the Massey 2607H. Only narrow front is the H, and it doesnt have 3pt. The massey works decent for sidedressing, doesnt turn real tight, but we use a 7 row side dress rig in the past and it gets the job done. If this works out my next tractor purchase might be something better suited. Im not real big on narrow front but understand the advantage.
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Look straight forward . Don't look back at the cultivator and when the crop is small be prepared to go slow. Not a job you can rush thru. For 6 row 30s a wide front tractor will turn just fine as long as it isn't a front wheel drive.
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When trying to return to conventional till and cultivation for weed control, remember that the more weeds you eliminate with tillage prior to planting the less you'll have after emergence.  However the first few years you will have to rely on herbicides maybe more than you'd like.  Fall plowing and multiple passes after weeds germinate will be the needed plan.
  Also with beans any cultivating done after flower setting will knock off flowers and lower yield.
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