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Tgtack 
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Posted: 17 Apr 2019 at 9:41pm |
So I bought my first B four days ago on Sunday, and today I traded up for a restored B. For the price difference, I couldn't have even started on a restoration. First one was a mid to late 1940 model, this one appears to be closer to a 1939, serial number B12070, hand crank B. Really enjoy these little tractors. Rebuilt engine and transmission, carb, magneto, new rubber all around, seat, PPG Automotive finish in AC Orange.    
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Gerald J.
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Posted: 17 Apr 2019 at 10:12pm |
If you have to tweak that new toy the shop manual can help: http://geraldj.networkiowa.com/Trees/Allis-Chalmers-G-B-C-CA-Service.pdf Your pictures would be a lot easier to see if they were scaled down to a width of 640 pixels instead of 4000 pixels. Gerald J.
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Posted: 17 Apr 2019 at 10:28pm |
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That's a very nice tractor. Kinda neat having the PTO delete plate...you don't see many of those around.
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GARY(OH/IN)
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Posted: 17 Apr 2019 at 10:51pm |
Bought a freshly restored 1947 a few years ago at an auction with the tire size still on the lugs just like yours. Mine had a Woods belly mower on it. Kept it a summer to mow and hated getting on and off. Rather take my chances driving over about anything than stopping to get off, pick it up and then get back on. Bought.......$850 Sold .......$1750
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Posted: 18 Apr 2019 at 6:20am |
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Thanks for the info, I down sized the pics as much as I could without chopping off part of them, hopefully will load better.
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Posted: 18 Apr 2019 at 6:40am |
Welcome Tgtack, Very nice looking tractor! Should be a lot of fun for you. They will do work and have touchy governors when demands are put on them. Don't ever tell it that its a small tractor!:) Your pictures look good now! We appreciate them! Nice shop! Regards, Chris
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Tgtack
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Posted: 18 Apr 2019 at 6:56am |
 Sugarmaker wrote:
Welcome Tgtack,Very nice looking tractor! Should be a lot of fun for you. They will do work and have touchy governors when demands are put on them. Don't ever tell it that its a small tractor!:) Your pictures look good now! We appreciate them! Nice shop! Regards, Chris |
Thanks Chris for the comments. Kind of funny that you mentioned small, and it will make a good picture, but I have a 1961 WH model 551 garden tractor with Tri-Ribs and Ag Tires. It is small enough that I am pretty sure I can park it under the belly of the B! The building is new, still moving in, been waiting 22 years to put one up and it's finally here!
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Posted: 18 Apr 2019 at 7:02am |
Tgtack, Need your general building specs. I would love to have something like that. Maybe someday. Regards, Chris
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Posted: 18 Apr 2019 at 7:37am |
Welcome aboard! Oh I feel so sorry for you for having that tractor! You are missing all the stress, time wasted and money to get one looking like that.  Someone did a very nice job on it. They are fun little tractors that will do more than you would think. I would guess you will not tax it to its fullest. I'll make another guess that you will dirty up that nice shop with a project where you can waste time, money and gat all stressed out like the rest of us, 
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Posted: 18 Apr 2019 at 7:48am |
Sugarmaker wrote:
Tgtack,Need your general building specs. I would love to have something like that. Maybe someday. Regards, Chris |
Chris, 36' wide by 30' deep. 8'x16' covered rear patio, patio roof extended for the 8'x20' workshop bump out, 12' sidewalls and ceilings, laminated post columns set 5' deep on poured pads, trusses on 48" centers. 2 - 10'x10' insulated overhead doors on front, 1 - 7'x8' insulated overhead door on rear. 2- 36" wide man doors, 3-32"x36" double pane windows. Fully insulated with 9" of Rockwool roll bat insulation, white ribbed steel interior liner. 5" thick concrete floor, standard 4/12 pitch roof. 65,000 lumens of LED lighting, 80,000 BTU Big MAXX natural gas fired heater. Original quote without the overhead doors was about $41k, I did all the electrical and underground utilities so when you add in all the materials and the overhead doors, probably right around $50k.
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Posted: 18 Apr 2019 at 7:54am |
Dick L wrote:
Welcome aboard!
Oh I feel so sorry for you for having that tractor! You are missing all the stress, time wasted and money to get one looking like that.
Someone did a very nice job on it. They are fun little tractors that will do more than you would think. I would guess you will not tax it to its fullest.
I'll make another guess that you will dirty up that nice shop with a project where you can waste time, money and gat all stressed out like the rest of us, |
Thanks Dick, yep have lots to do, about a half dozen Hit Miss engines to restore, another half dozen WH Garden tractors, a Case 195, and pulling the cab and bed off a Dodge Ram quad cab two wheel drive to go on to the chassis of a Dodge Ram quad cab 4x4 Hemi. So have LOTS to do. If I had kept the other B, it would have likely been years before I could have gotten around to it. It was a very nice running machine pretty much in decent looking original work clothes. For what I paid difference between the two, I could not have even started on restoring it. Someone had well over $5k in additional restoration costs in the one I traded up for.
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Posted: 18 Apr 2019 at 8:47am |
What is the Engine number. If this is a 38 B it should be on the back of the block beginning BE ----. Tractor # ? Without these 2 numbers my guess is this B started out as a 1938. A few things I see are genuine 1938 vintage parts. The wide seat back supports and the grill shell . The rear wheels and rims and the clamps are from later model Bs along with the hood and gas tank. Front wheels if 38 vintage should have riveted hubs and 38 steering wheels were completely covered with hard rubber spokes and all Should have a under hood muffler or no muffler at all in 38 I'm not being critical. Just pointing out a few things that changed but will still interchange. I'm glad it still has hand brakes and starts with a hand crank
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Posted: 18 Apr 2019 at 8:51am |
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Almost forgot the Single Rib 5 x15 front tires
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Posted: 18 Apr 2019 at 9:04am |
Ken in Texas wrote:
What is the Engine number. If this is a 38 B it should be on the back of the block beginningBE ----. Tractor # ? Without these 2 numbers my guess is this B started out as a 1938. A few things I see are genuine 1938 vintage parts. The wide seat back supports and the grill shell . The rear wheels and rims and the clamps are from later model Bs along with the hood and gas tank. Front wheels if 38 vintage should have riveted hubs and 38 steering wheels were completely covered with hard rubber spokes and all Should have a under hood muffler or no muffler at all in 38 I'm not being critical. Just pointing out a few things that changed but will still interchange. I'm glad it still has hand brakes and starts with a hand crank |
Don't have engine number, but serial number is B12070 which puts it in the 1939 model year according to the serial number chart.
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Posted: 18 Apr 2019 at 9:51am |
The late 38s and early 39s were nearly identical in nearly every way. I'm now cloning my Daddy's first B. Here is a picture of Dad and I taken by my Grandmother by our Farm Stand located at 3837 west 111th street Chicago Illinois  |
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Posted: 18 Apr 2019 at 11:25am |
TjTack, Welcome to the Unofficial Allis Chalmers Forum. That is one really nice looking B. In fact when we unloaded them in the late 1930's your unit is "better than new". You will find it to be a very dependable, very basic, but powerful tractor.
Enjoy! Take good care of my favorite. Good Luck! Bill Long
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Posted: 18 Apr 2019 at 11:49am |
Tgtack wrote:
Sugarmaker wrote:
Tgtack,Need your general building specs. I would love to have something like that. Maybe someday. Regards, Chris |
Chris, 36' wide by 30' deep. 8'x16' covered rear patio, patio roof extended for the 8'x20' workshop bump out, 12' sidewalls and ceilings, laminated post columns set 5' deep on poured pads, trusses on 48" centers. 2 - 10'x10' insulated overhead doors on front, 1 - 7'x8' insulated overhead door on rear. 2- 36" wide man doors, 3-32"x36" double pane windows. Fully insulated with 9" of Rockwool roll bat insulation, white ribbed steel interior liner. 5" thick concrete floor, standard 4/12 pitch roof. 65,000 lumens of LED lighting, 80,000 BTU Big MAXX natural gas fired heater. Original quote without the overhead doors was about $41k, I did all the electrical and underground utilities so when you add in all the materials and the overhead doors, probably right around $50k. |
T, Thanks for including all your specs and the approx cost. That is about what I thought it would take to put up a "good" tight building for year round work! Very nice! Sounds like you have many projects lined up too! Regards, Chris
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Posted: 18 Apr 2019 at 6:35pm |
Bill Long wrote:
TjTack, Welcome to the Unofficial Allis Chalmers Forum. That is one really nice looking B. In fact when we unloaded them in the late 1930's your unit is "better than new". You will find it to be a very dependable, very basic, but powerful tractor.
Enjoy! Take good care of my favorite. Good Luck! Bill Long
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Thanks Bill, always liked them, finally got me one. I will certainly enjoy driving it to the ice cream stand this summer!
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