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    Posted: 05 Sep 2021 at 7:50pm
Is it SOP to have a flail mower just "float" on the ground or is it held at a height via two way hydraulics?

Reason I ask is I want  to put one on my D17 series One....with the flail offset feature I want I will need to finagle the hydraulics to allow independent operation of the offest.  Want to know what I would need for the up/down movement .....2 way or will letting it float suffice...
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I dont see why you would need DOWN pressure... Float down and raise up to the position you want to hold... Just like the rear blade / plow on an old tractor.
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Originally posted by steve(ill) steve(ill) wrote:

I dont see why you would need DOWN pressure... Float down and raise up to the position you want to hold... Just like the rear blade / plow on an old tractor.

Yeah thats what I am thinking too...
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I used both a Ford flail and a couple other brands and set them so they run with light pressure (weight of mower) on rear roller but 3 point is handling most of the weight .
  You have to allow the mower to move up and down so it follows the contour of the land and the movement of the tractor .
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I use a 9' wide Matthews Company Rotary Scythe.  It is very heavy.  The Rotary Scythe has balance springs and a roller, to help against scalping.  With the Rotary Scythe in the fully raised position, it is easy to fluff wet hay.
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Helped a cousin set fence on his Uncle's Hemp Farm year ago summer, he had a flail mower but was not doing very well with it where looked more like a flail tillerLOLLOLLOL
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The Ford flail I have not takes about 1/3 more HP to run that the Mott I use to have , Mott used 2 L shaped cutting blades that hung from a U bracket , Ford has a 1 piece blade - heavier and just doesn't cut as well  
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Rear roller is the right answer for the ones I've ran.
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Got to know your fail type?

If Fail mower has a REAR ROLLER, then yes flail mower housing might be able to be pitched upward IN FRONT so it’s blades clear ground while also resting(traveling) on rear roller?

If fail mower DOES NOT HAVE REAR ROLLER, then either a manual ratchet(3pt upper screw) or hydraulic cylinder can set blade heights.

Some flail brands have SKIDS located at each of its housing sides? If so, then skids might be adjusted so blades may still clear ground if mower bottoms out...- hopefully bottoming out on skids. I have an IH60 15’ flail. It is pull type, 2 rear tires, no roller, manual ratchet cylinder that I set so it’s outer skids just touch. As long as ground stays level all is good. But if ground has an significant terrain, blades can quickly tiller up sod.

Edited by AC7060IL - 08 Sep 2021 at 8:51pm
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