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DMiller ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 34015 |
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Do not know of other areas but not seeing any reality of good in corn here. A few friends and contacts been pulling sample ears as stalks dry down, silks are mostly dried up, a few never pollinated and remain white with the stalk dead, shucked ears tell the true story.
For four counties around us ears are 1/2 -2/3 filled out, kernels are small and already deep dimpled, one sample tested at 27% moisture where estimations on fields that generated 210-240 b/a just a few years ago MIGHT make 150 this go, as well will be docked for small grain size and poor grade outs. Several are considering letting beef onto the fields as a feed out as will not regain the costs to harvest where insurance will not pay anything. |
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DougG ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 20 Sep 2009 Location: Mo Points: 8357 |
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You know ,, I listen to the Big 550 in the morning and they have an hour segment of Ag news, the big Farm tour was a couple weeks ago and they reported Illinois corn was very disappointing, looked good on the outside but kinda alot like you described Dave,,
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AC7060IL ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 19 Aug 2012 Location: central IL Points: 3536 |
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Our area observed 10.7” of rains in the month of July alone (July 6-20th) !!
What does that mean? If your corn pollinated towards the earlier timing (end of June & up til July 6th), it probably did ok & may exhibit good kernel development? But if it pollinated during that heavy rainy period, lots of pollen grains could have been washed out of tassel &/or washed off ear silks, thus leading to No or very poor kernel development. Corn tassels usually only shed pollen from 10~12am til 6pm? each day. And good Viable pollen only lives about 12 hours? Also if your area experienced a drought prior to & during pollination, dry/hotter air temps could damage pollen production within the tassel, rendering it sterile? If so, any amount being shed is pointless. To further complicate, ear silks are made up of 90% water. So any drought conditions could also limit silk growth. IF,,, a field has no or reduced soil compaction that could enable good deep (5-8’?) corn root growth? Then, healthier plant’s roots may be tapped into lower ground water which may enable normal silk growth even during a drought? Edited by AC7060IL - 30 Aug 2025 at 11:47am |
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Lars(wi) ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Permian Basin Points: 8079 |
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Will be interested to follow along and see if the USDA prediction of 188.8 bu per acre(nationwide) is accurate.
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I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science.
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steve(ill) ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: illinois Points: 87917 |
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planted BEANS here this year... First time in about 8 years..
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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DMiller ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 34015 |
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Now the Beans here, standing Tall, nice bushiness, loads of Pods.
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DougG ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 20 Sep 2009 Location: Mo Points: 8357 |
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Around here too , but the $$$$ are low,,,
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KJCHRIS ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Dec 2015 Location: WC Iowa Points: 960 |
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Sunday morning (8/31/25) farm talk show had a short clip about "corn rust" and "tar spot" damages in some midwest corn fields. Causes early dry down of ears/plants. IF you have both in a field it can really hurt yield in what a few weeks ago was a really good field of corn.
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dr p ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 24 Feb 2019 Location: new york Points: 1405 |
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Everything that could have gone wrong with early corn happened around here. Too much rain, then no rain at fill. And tassel disease with a little tar spot on top. The late corn (after 20june) looks better but if we get an early frost, it doomed. I have been growing more bmr sudan sorghum for silage. A little less yield but a lot less imputs. I add some dried beet pulp at the blower if its too wet. With corn at 4 dollars a bushel and max yield here at 150 bushels per acre, i think long and hard about just buying feed
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jvin248 ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Jan 2022 Location: Detroit Points: 458 |
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Seems like a lot of the hybrid/GMO seed supply was geared for drought and then we get a lot of rain... . |
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DMiller ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 34015 |
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Best laid plans then nature steps up to bat.
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DMiller ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 34015 |
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This was a Ear furnished as Local was inspecting it, knows is Junk.
Is one of my Work truck tools, a Stanley 1/2" Wrench.
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plummerscarin ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 22 Jun 2015 Location: ia Points: 3924 |
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Co-op manager in bear camp with us says that is quite common. this along with a few other maladies. He believes the yields will be much lower than predicted
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IBWD MIke ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Apr 2012 Location: Newton Ia. Points: 4091 |
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My crops all look pretty good. Some wind damage in the corn from July.
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Ben (MI) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 02 Jun 2010 Location: SW Lower MI Points: 768 |
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I'm in an area of irrigated specialty crops and farm small fields the bto guys don't want. My corn will probably make 125 and the beans 35-40. Good corn for me is 150 and beans 40. My ground is pretty sandy with some clay mixed in but nowhere enough. Also have some gravely hills to go with some beach sand. I've had around 3" of rain since pollination and we've had more 90 degree days than usual. I hope you all have a safe and successful harvest.
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Part time farming with a 1980 7060 and 1984 F3 hydro.
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DMiller ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 34015 |
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Will soon know as Harvest in Full Swing now.
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tadams(OH) ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Location: Jeromesville, O Points: 10918 |
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The rain will probably start also
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Lars(wi) ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Permian Basin Points: 8079 |
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There is a couple ongoing discussions over on LinkedIn, regarding the commodities prices going into harvest. General consensus is #2 yellow corn will average $3.90 per bu, with the average farmer ‘losing’ .85 cents per bushel. If my Jethro Bodine rithmatic is correct, that’s puts the average production cost per bushel of corn at $4.75+/-, this is insane.
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I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science.
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Tbone95 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 12190 |
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Carrying onward, production estimate is 16.7 billion bushels. Losing $.85 per bushel, collectively $14.195 billion lost. Yeah something doesn’t add up. I don’t think farmers are quite that big of idiots. |
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DMiller ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 34015 |
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New bigger ?better? Machines at a cost, to plant/harvest more high dollar purchased or leased ground, of crops that make little money yet are deemed as THE crops to grow. And who determined the US farmer needed to do ONLY wheat beans corn rotations? Then WHY?
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jvin248 ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Jan 2022 Location: Detroit Points: 458 |
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I picked a few ears where husks were dried down. Counted kernels and plugged in the estimate calculator. 250-300bu/ac! Lol. I have a lot of variability out there and still a lot of green. A while before I can harvest it all and get a real count. I planted a 50/50 mix of Reid's yellow dent and Jimmy Red, heirlooms, non-gmo. Working at building a higher protein seed, 3-4x protein of modern corn seed. No rust, no tar spot. No inputs. No till. Regen ag techniques. I expect a lot lower actual yield, but it was fun to see the calculator estimate number. . Edited by jvin248 - 12 Sep 2025 at 7:55pm |
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plummerscarin ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 22 Jun 2015 Location: ia Points: 3924 |
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I like to play with the calculator also. I have estimates from 175 to 250. Beans very high also. The real answer won't be till they cross the scale.
Would love find out your results after harvest |
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DMiller ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 34015 |
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Also depends of the Docks after Probed.
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Tbone95 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 12190 |
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As far as I know nobody has ever been forced to grow corn, beans, or wheat. Around here, folks also grow oats, sugar beets, dry beans or black beans, pickles, sunflowers, cherries dairy, beef……a guy just makes his decisions. Having a known market that’s easy to access is nice. As is insurance. |
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Tbone95 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 12190 |
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DMiller ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 34015 |
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There are and always been careless Morons in the Fields. They tend to thin themselves out over time.
With Land prices here over $10k/ac, corn will not ever "Profit", neither will beans or any other crop, I have watched as large investors have bought up Thousands of Acres at just such pricing, if sit on it a hundred years may get their moneys back, but not by Farming or Leasing, Does make a Great tax Write Down for the Big Money Goons.
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jvin248 ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Jan 2022 Location: Detroit Points: 458 |
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The farm I grew up on was sold by the family back in the 1960s because no crop could pay the taxes, let alone "$10k" financing. It sold three or four times after that until it sprouted condos. That's the problem if you have a farm just beyond where the sidewalk ends. . Edited by jvin248 - 15 hours 44 minutes ago at 3:18pm |
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DMiller ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 34015 |
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Out here are well beyond, 'The Sidewalks and Condos'. STILL Flatland ground to the North of us going on $10-15K/ac (Open Cropland), here where we bought land prices tripled in less than ten years. A 20ac tract just a few miles away sold for $8700/ac, NO House, NO Barn(s), no structures of any kind, just scrub sapling sprouting pasture. Electric is 'Close, No well on site and no county system. Phone, Internet, any additional Grandiose appointments, Lacking.
Funny is as some properties go into Tax or Failed Loans sales, Mennonites and Amish are jumping in, CASH. From Martinsburg W to Marling, from Buell N to New Hartford is nearly ALL Amish now. Similar from Bowling Green to New London and W out past Center they are picking up 'Distressed Properties'.
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Tbone95 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 12190 |
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I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. When you look at buying land, of COURSE if you borrow the money you will not profit. But if you have the money, you’re good. You bought yourself a real, tangible, generally appreciating asset. If you can make money over the cost of inputs, compare that to leaving it in the bank earning a couple percent interest. Have cash flow over cost of inputs, asset appreciates, equity increases, improves balance sheet. Those who pursue this become the” big guy” everyone bitches about. The Norman Rockwell days were over a long time ago.
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jvin248 ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Jan 2022 Location: Detroit Points: 458 |
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Hutterites (N US/Canadian menonites/Amish) ave 150 person groups will split and give 75 all the cash to buy new land. Like honey bees swarming. No financing problems. They can easily outbid. If regular farmers banded together against input corporations and commodity market corporations they could do the same. . |
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