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CTuckerNWIL 
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Posted: 30 Aug 2019 at 7:59pm |
I was reading the newest Antique Power this morning and saw this ill informed opinion printed. Seems there should be a delete button for Facts that aren't facts when they are printed. 
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steve(ill)
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Posted: 30 Aug 2019 at 8:07pm |
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why would Antique Power publish something like that without Checking first ?? ......... and you wonder where some idiots get their info.
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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JW in MO
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Posted: 30 Aug 2019 at 8:18pm |
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Evidently opinion overrules facts anymore.
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CrestonM
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Posted: 30 Aug 2019 at 8:37pm |
 That's absurd.... I do wonder what the "A" in CA really designates.
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JohnCO
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Posted: 30 Aug 2019 at 9:53pm |
I saw that letter yesterday. Was thinking someone should write a letter back. I have a CA just like the one in the picture. Other then the 4 speed and 2d clutch, what differences are there between a C and CA?
Creston, the A stands for AWESOME!
Edited by JohnCO - 30 Aug 2019 at 9:54pm
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CrestonM
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Posted: 30 Aug 2019 at 10:00pm |
Haha, good one, John! CA also has power shift rear wheels.
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Alberta Phil
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Posted: 30 Aug 2019 at 10:05pm |
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Just send Rick an e-mail pointing out the correct info.
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DougS
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Posted: 31 Aug 2019 at 4:47am |
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Snap coupler available on CA too.
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jaybmiller
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Posted: 31 Aug 2019 at 5:30am |
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My CA had a TB guage on the steering column.. it was a '51 I think, had it been a '53 it'd still be here.
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chaskaduo
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Posted: 31 Aug 2019 at 7:27am |
So if I had an adjustable width front end on my B it would be considered a BA, and if I put duallys on the rear also then it's considered a BAD tractor. That's BS or dare I say it "Fake News". 
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CTuckerNWIL
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Posted: 31 Aug 2019 at 10:10am |
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I sent a message right away on facebook and got a reply that the editor would be notified.
The differences that i can think of are, the tapped bosses in the front pedestal , tapped bosses on the torque tube, Platform under the drivers pan seat, 4 piston(WD) hydraulic pump with Traction boost,(not all CA's had the Snap Couple or TB gauge), magneto only the first couple years of production, power shift rear wheels with different bolt pattern than the C, higher RPM, option of a hand clutch on one rear axle, and what am I forgetting?
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DougS
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Posted: 31 Aug 2019 at 11:08am |
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Four forward gears.
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Dick L
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Posted: 31 Aug 2019 at 11:52am |
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The fellow might have see a CA with a narrow front from a C. No difference other than the above stated cultivator bosses. I put a CA narrow front on my C I pulled with to use the bosses to mount weight out front. Think about all the C's that confuse people that have B wide fronts. Not everyone reads these boards as we all do.
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Gerald J.
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Posted: 31 Aug 2019 at 1:10pm |
The shop manual that covers G, B, C, and CA will show some factory differences: http://geraldj.networkiowa.com/Trees/Allis-Chalmers-G-B-C-CA-Service.pdf Gerald J.
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HoughMade
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Posted: 31 Aug 2019 at 8:23pm |
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‘Course there’s the fact that the CA replaced the C and they were never manufactured at the same time....that little detail.
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steve(ill)
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Posted: 31 Aug 2019 at 9:47pm |
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the final drives on a B and C are bolted on straight up and down with respect to the bolt pattern......... Seems like the CA they are tilted back slightly to give it a longer wheel base ? Or did I dream that ? Have not seen a CA for several years.
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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Dick L
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Posted: 01 Sep 2019 at 12:17pm |
 steve(ill) wrote:
the final drives on a B and C are bolted on straight up and down with respect to the bolt pattern......... Seems like the CA they are tilted back slightly to give it a longer wheel base ? Or did I dream that ? Have not seen a CA for several years. |
The bolt pattern is the same for all three. The final drive casting is what sets the rear axles back.
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Jordan(OH)
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Posted: 02 Sep 2019 at 12:45am |
I used to have a CA single front. Would that be a CS?
Edited by Jordan(OH) - 02 Sep 2019 at 12:50am
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DougS
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Posted: 02 Sep 2019 at 6:50am |
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WF, NF, single wheel. They were all called a CA. Unlike another tractor manufacturer, AC didn't nit pik names for the same tractor with slightly different options.
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Dale (Stonelick)
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Posted: 07 Sep 2019 at 8:23am |
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I read that there were 10 improvements in model CA over model C: 1-increased HP, 2- improved hydraulics, 3-four speed transmission, 4-heavier axle, 5-draft control, 6-seat shocks, 7-improved hitch, 8-hand clutch, 9-live PTO, 10-spin out wheels.
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chaskaduo
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Posted: 07 Sep 2019 at 8:32am |
So that would mean you have a CAHPIH4SPHADCSSIHHCLPTOSOW, now put that on the tranny before the serial number. 
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