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Hey!  That picture looks familiar!
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Told ya I was learning....more work to grab someone's pic off a text and get it here.
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This mine. You can see where heater is. The orange one belongs to another forum member. My fuel filter blocks port his uses for heater.
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Easiest plan B is put a tank heater on but I don't like where it needs positioned Drain plug on side of block up to tstat hsg. I may pull that filter etc off to see what.
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No worries!  I don’t mind that you used it!
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I had to look at my tractor engine, whoever did the swap moved the filter housing down, it also has a dual filter. I will try to link the picture so you can zoom in on it.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/upuHsvhmEyBiamBh9
It looks like that would make it a lot easier to put the heater in, and it would be more centered in the block.

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Originally posted by SteveM C/IL SteveM C/IL wrote:

Easiest plan B is put a tank heater on but I don't like where it needs positioned Drain plug on side of block up to tstat hsg. I may pull that filter etc off to see what.

Seems like it is going to be a lot of work to go to a Tank Heater.  Wouldn't the 1000 watt heater be less heat and less likely to boil the coolant?  Is that worth a try or did the rep say that won't work at all?  Was the rep a Zerostart tech person?   Does it make sense to ask them?  I know you have burnt up every one you tried so I understand why you don't want to try the 1000 watt version or maybe even the 400 watt version.  
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Talked to zerostart engineer. He wasn't comfortable with 1000wt at that location. A 700 maybe but cost add up burning em up doing trial and error. A tank heater could mount on frame rail and have about 20 inches of hose for both inlet and outlet. Literature on tanks say to keep out of weather. It would be somewhat under fender and I plan to keep it under roof so that might be okay. I just like "clean" installs. Sometimes your choices are limited. The tank i looked at was recommended for up to 26? qt system. Mine is around 34qt. It was 1500wt. This is getting complicated....

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TedN...could you get a pic of the other side? I see your engine has that water manifold going around the back of head too headed to oil cooler? My water pump is different than a tractor but application list loader and Gleaner M&L 301's as same.
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I would try a 700 watt and see if that works. It seems like that would heat slower and not boil.
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