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Jim.ME
Orange Level Joined: 19 Nov 2016 Location: Maine Points: 937 |
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jerbob, I may not be following what you are asking but, reversing the wires won't reduce 24 volts to 12. On a 24 volt positive ground system, with two batteries in series, you should have 12 volts at the negative terminal of the battery that has the positive post connected to ground. You can check that with a voltmeter. You would have to run a separate wire from there to supply your light switch with 12 volts. You could put a resistor in the 24 volt supply to the lights and reduce it to 12 volts. It would seem it would be easier to get and install the right 24 volt bulbs and reduce the chances shorting something out. Years ago I remember seeing screws driven into the lead connections between cells on the old 12 volt tar topped batteries so people could run 6 volt accessories from them or resistors installed for the same purpose. I also remember seeing somethings go up in smoke from these taps as well. If you decide to do something like this please put a fuse in your wire near the battery.
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jerbob
Orange Level Joined: 07 Aug 2017 Location: Michigan Points: 961 |
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I am replacing all my gauges with Stewart Warner analog mechanical gauges. Jegs carries them all. $36.00 to $45.00 each. They all come with light kits but if your dash light is functional you don't have to hook em up.
Regarding lights, could you use s lead from one 12 volt battery to run all the lights? If so, as my HD16 is s 24volt system and a positive ground do I have to reverse the gauge wires to get 12 volt? |
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Jim.ME
Orange Level Joined: 19 Nov 2016 Location: Maine Points: 937 |
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I agree with Steve. An old mechanical ammeter should work on 6, 12, or 24 volts as long as it's range can cover the charge rate. How many 6 volt tractors and other vehicles have been converted to 12 volts and the same ammeter used by just reversing the leads? They work until the current over loads them, which might be a long time. The likely reason a manufacturer will say an ammeter is for a certain voltage is the lighting kit/bulb they supply with it, as lighting is more commonly supplied in the gauges than it used to be. Stewart Warner gave an option of 12 or 24 volt lighting kits for their ammeters.
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steve(ill)
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an amp meter measures AMPS.. has nothing to do with VOLTS unless it is electronic controlled... an old Mechanical AMP gauge will work on 12 or 24 volts.
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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walnut1
Bronze Level Joined: 11 Nov 2017 Location: California Points: 42 |
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The seller, hwaccumulator, said they only work with 12 volt. I put a 35 amp one wire alternator on it, I think it should work.
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walnut1
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JC, thanks for the links, I just sent the seller a question whether they’ll work with a 24 volt system. I’ll post the reply.
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walnut1
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Garlic Pete, thanks for the info. I was curious if that is the case. I can find many that say 12 volts, I’ll try one and let you know. My multimeter is showing around 27+ volts when charging. Both my HD11s have ammeters, not voltage meters. I believe they came that way because my dad bought the tractors new and he said he never replaced them.
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JC-WI
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this one is 42.64 w/shipping... http://www.ebay.com/itm/Faria-13760-Chesapeake-Black-Stainless-Steel-2-Volt-Gauge-for-24-Volt-System-/272221641766 and a 26 buck gauge... http://www.ebay.com/itm/NIB-24v-Volt-meter-Gauge-DATCON-101911-Heavy-Duty-Series-831-2-1-16-52mm/172833938493?hash=item283db49c3d:g:tPYAAOSwAYtWHSi-&vxp=mtr heres a 30 amp buy it now 25 bucks new and free shipping. http://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-2-1-8-STEWART-WARNER-30-AMP-AMPERES-GAUGE-HOT-STREET-RAT-ROD-SCTA/222821785125?hash=item33e1369e25:g:CMoAAOSwNt1adOI-&vxp=mtr Here is a 60 amp for 30 bucks and can shove a light inside it for back lit gauge... http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-1-8-STEWART-WARNER-60-AMP-AMPERES-GAUGE-HOT-STREET-RAT-ROD-SCTA/222821791695?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D50073%26meid%3D40e95c1af134428c893c49926e6735c0%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D222821777411%26itm%3D222821791695&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851 Here is another 60 amp at 40 bucks, and this too can be lit.. from a light source on the outside of the gauge. http://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-2-1-8-STEWART-WARNER-60-AMP-AMPERES-GAUGE-HOT-STREET-RAT-ROD-SCTA/323049230492?hash=item4b373c109c:g:VNgAAOSwajVadN9X&vxp=mtr Edited by JC(WI) - 19 Feb 2018 at 2:10pm |
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Garlic Pete
Bronze Level Joined: 09 Nov 2017 Location: Bakersfield, Ca Points: 37 |
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I think, but am not sure if this is correct, that the ammeter doesn't care what voltage is applied to it. It just measures the electrons that pass by.
As long as the voltage doesn't get so high that the insulation is breached or internal parts are too close to each other (like hooking up a automotive type ammeter to, say, 480 volts) you can use any ammeter in a system with any nominal voltage. If you really want a volt meter, steve(ill) has given you some good choices. Pete.
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steve(ill)
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or a BLACK ring for $32. at Graingers
2" Black Aluminum Engine Voltmeter Gauge with 2-1/16" (53mm) Mounting Hole
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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steve(ill)
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https://www.grainger.com
2" Stainless Steel Engine Voltmeter Gauge with 2-1/16" (53mm) Mounting Hole
$42.80 / each Edited by steve(ill) - 19 Feb 2018 at 12:15pm |
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steve(ill)
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amp meter measures current.. VOLT meter measures voltage.
If you want an amp meter, it would be the same as the small tractors. If you want a VOLT meter, I would think they are available for many older dozers / loaders / 24v trucks.
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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walnut1
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Anyone know of a source for a 24 volt ammeter for an HD11? All I can find are one wire digital ones or $150 aircraft gauges.
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