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Dgrader 
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 Posted: 25 Feb 2017 at 4:06am |
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My grass could stand to be mowed. I am not mowin in feb.
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darrel in ND
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Posted: 25 Feb 2017 at 8:11am |
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Interesting read. Plowing is unheard of here in my area. I do have a plow just like the one in the pictures, but I just bought it because it was Allis, was at a "give away price," and was like brand new. Maybe I'll go try it out sometime, somewhere behind a hill so no one will see me. Darrel
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AC7060IL
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Posted: 21 Mar 2017 at 4:47am |
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I filled up my AC7060's fuel tanks so I could figure fuel consumption while plowing this field.
It consumed an averaged of 2.18 gallons per acre. So, per each gallon, the 426 (670I 3700) engine pulled the AC 2000 6-18" plow (108" or 9' width), 2220 feet.
Figuring a 5-7% wheel slippage, at 4.5mph, it should have 4.2mph actual average speed.
4.2mph equals 22,176'/hr divided by 2220'/gal fuel equals 9.98 gal/hr.
The tractordata.com Nebraska Tractor test results show 10.0-10.3 gal/hr consumption rate for AC7060 power director in 1st slow high gear.
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Tbone95
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Posted: 21 Mar 2017 at 7:32am |
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Would you say then, since you were ate 9.98 gal/hr, you were about maxed out on HP? Did it feel like it? Seems that would be hard to do continuously in the dirt rather than on the track at the Nebraska lab...
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AC7060IL
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Posted: 21 Mar 2017 at 9:38am |
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No ,it was definitely not maxed out on hp. No grunting - just a good moderate tillage load.
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AC7060IL
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Posted: 21 Mar 2017 at 9:45am |
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Unlike the Nebraska Test's Max load pulling in 1st Slow hi gear, my 7060 was plowing in 1st Fast Hi gear.
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Tbone95
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Posted: 21 Mar 2017 at 10:09am |
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Just to clarify, you are in fast range and high PD (floor buttons), and Nebraska was at slow range, high floor button?
Interesting....and Nebraska's max pull isn't necessarily max HP either....just interesting. Your gear was 4.5mph, that's a good plowing speed I would think.
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Posted: 21 Mar 2017 at 11:06am |
I can never get over the RICH BLACK SOIL you are blessed to have in Central Illinois. Lot better than our red clay rock in central Maryland. Nice looking unit. Outstanding plow. Thanks for sharing. Good Luck! Bill Long
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AC7060IL
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Posted: 21 Mar 2017 at 11:09am |
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Yes, 1st Fast, High button.
It was not set at highest throttle.
Running at 300rpms less full throttle (2000rpm).
Its a black 1979 53xx hr tractor.
I had fuel pump rebuilt to stock hp 10 years ago.
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AC7060IL
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Posted: 21 Mar 2017 at 11:58am |
Someone the other day was asking about how to set up tractor for plowing with an AC 2000 plow, so I thought I'd share a few photos. This photo shows the tractor's right wheels moved out so they will run in the furrow & rear duals on land side. AC's rear power shift rims make this job easy. |
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AC7060IL
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Posted: 21 Mar 2017 at 12:01pm |
This photo shows the tractor's rear power shift rim slid out & its weights. Those are 4 - 300 lb weights. The 18.4-38's do not have any fluid in them.
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AC7060IL
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Posted: 21 Mar 2017 at 12:33pm |
This photo shows the AC 2000 plow's lower 3pt adjustable hitch beam. Please note how the plow's hitch beam bolts can be loosened and it can be slid either way, then retightened. It is positioned nearer to the furrow side. That setting allows the plow's centerline of draft to align more closely to the centerline of the tractor. In addition, when you move the tractor's right wheels into the furrow, it aids in keeping both centerlines nearer to alignment. It's not perfect, but close.
Also, note the adjustable rod heights of the tractor's lower 3pt arms. The arm (near the furrow) has been screwed all the way up (no threads showing on height rod). The other arm (on land side) is set about 2" lower (has 2" of threads showing on height rod). These height rods are used to level the plow once the tractor's right wheels enters furrow. The tractor will set on a slight angle with half it's wheels in furrow & the other half on land side. Once plow is level, adjust the plow's height gauge wheel to accommodate it while running.
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Tbone95
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Posted: 21 Mar 2017 at 12:42pm |
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I always am baffled at how 2" on the lift linkage levels a plow when you're sitting 8" or more in a furrow. I do it too, I see it in the manuals, it's just "weird", that's all.
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AC7060IL
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Posted: 21 Mar 2017 at 12:46pm |
This photo shows the tractor's front axle (furrow side) has been moved out. Please note that both the axle & tie-rod get repositioned. The axle will usually move easily. The tie-rod can be a bear to move if it has not been moved in a few years. For a stubborn tie-rod, I discovered that heating the outer tie-rod tube with a torch & spraying a mix of ATF/WD40 lube it's ends helps free up it's inside rust. Once freed up, apply grease or anti-seize to tie-rod before moving in back to it's narrow position.
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Dans 7080
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Posted: 21 Mar 2017 at 1:10pm |
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Tbone take an 8ft straight edge and make one end 8" lower than the other. Measure the drop in the center 3ft. It will be a lot less than the 8".
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Tbone95
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Posted: 21 Mar 2017 at 1:16pm |
 Dans 7080 wrote:
Tbone take an 8ft straight edge and make one end 8" lower than the other. Measure the drop in the center 3ft. It will be a lot less than the 8". |
True, not a bad analogy. Just seems like the furrow, lift arm, and connection to the plow aren't all that far apart, but apparently it works out.  In your example, it's an inch per foot, so at 3 feet, 3 inches of drop.
Edited by Tbone95 - 21 Mar 2017 at 1:23pm
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Posted: 21 Mar 2017 at 1:21pm |
AC7060IL wrote:
This photo shows the tractor's front axle (furrow side) has been moved out. Please note that both the axle & tie-rod get repositioned. The axle will usually move easily. The tie-rod can be a bear to move if it has not been moved in a few years. For a stubborn tie-rod, I discovered that heating the outer tie-rod tube with a torch & spraying a mix of ATF/WD40 lube it's ends helps free up it's inside rust. Once freed up, apply grease or anti-seize to tie-rod before moving in back to it's narrow position. |
When I got my 7045, stuff hadn't been moved in a very long time obviously. No powershift rims, torque and beat was the method. Wow what a bunch of work! Like you said, the front axel moves a bit easier than the tie rod, but they were plenty stubborn as well. The last thing I tried to move was the left front wheel out. Doesn't have a plowing function per se, but just to get it more centered to the rear wheel and for, well, cosmetic purposes even. I heated it, beat on it, beat on it with an air hammer, at one time I had almost the whole thing cherry read and submersed it in an old creamer can full of oil. Twice. Boy that was a stinky smokey mess. But it never did move. So if you ever see a 7045 coming at you and the front tires appear a bit oddly positioned.....It could be me! 
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Posted: 21 Mar 2017 at 1:25pm |
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In the 8' 8" analogy, any 1' of the straight edge would have a 1" drop. Any 3',3" and 2',2" and so on.
You are a faster types than I am!
Edited by Dans 7080 - 21 Mar 2017 at 1:25pm
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Tbone95
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Posted: 21 Mar 2017 at 1:26pm |
Yeah, I made an edit up there, that's a simple one. 
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Posted: 21 Mar 2017 at 1:28pm |
This photo shows the AC 2000 plow's tilt & trailering angle when it's out of the ground.
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Posted: 21 Mar 2017 at 1:38pm |
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That's another chunk of math that doesn't work out to me....You have an in-furrow plow. So the RH tires are in the furrow that bottom #1 is going to cover. So within a couple inches of clearance (for lack of a better word) the inside of the RH rear tire would have to be about 54 inches from the center of the tractor in order to be centered, no? Is that even possible? On my 7045 it is not possible.
Of course center of draft is an interesting concept. Tractor isn't level, so the lower tire gets more weight. Lower tire often times is on more firm ground for better traction, except when it's not like in greasy clay and the on land tire has some sod to hang on to, oh, and put duals up there for kicks! Hahaha. Just a lot going on setting up a plow.
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Posted: 21 Mar 2017 at 1:44pm |
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I can see it becoming parallel to the line of draft, but not at the center of draft, or even all that close....I have a 6 bottom in furrow plow, not an AC. I don't remember the exact dimension the plow book called for to the CENTER of the rear tire, but I think it was 34 inches? Something very close to that anyway.
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Posted: 21 Mar 2017 at 3:10pm |
Bill Long wrote:
I can never get over the RICH BLACK SOIL you are blessed to have in Central Illinois.Lot better than our red clay rock in central Maryland. Nice looking unit. Outstanding plow. Thanks for sharing. Good Luck! Bill Long |
You can see the IL Rt 16 moraine hills (Charleston, Shelbyville, Litchfield) where an ice flow retreated & melted). Like a giant bulldozer that stops pushing dirt, it left a line of hills, mostly on the south side of the highway. North of that highway, its flat. Another moraine is located farther north across IL Rt 9 (Bloomington - Gibson City, Paxton, Hoopeston). I believe these glaciers bulldozed rock, sediment, soils from areas as far north as Canada's Hudson Bay, US's great lakes, & everywhere in between. Look how Lake Michigan is predominately laying north to south. There is a water aquifer (under ground gravel & sand deposit) called the "Mahomet Aquifer". It stretches from near the southern tip of Lake Michigan south-southwest towards Mahomet and ends Just north of Taylorville by Willeys Station. You can dig down 40' in these areas and have upwards of a 1000 gallon of water a minute for wells. Lots of towns fill their water towers from it.
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Posted: 21 Mar 2017 at 10:18pm |
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record heat here in northern utah and things are budding out and i have snowmobileing from the house years before on this date i disced the garden last week just because but i still dont dare plant the garden until until the 15 of may. and one of my customers planted 70acres of barley the other day
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Posted: 22 Mar 2017 at 5:22am |
no worries about plowing in feb. in pa. but we do spread the manure when we think the last snow is coming. which in pa could be july!  for our garden we will till the ground one direction as soon as the frost leaves the ground, pile on the manure and let it leach into the ground and till it the other direction. helps to loosen up some of this yellow clay soil we have. on the plus side I live on a hill side, so what ain't clay is stone!!!
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Posted: 22 Mar 2017 at 5:47am |
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A guy near me here in SE MN planted oats last week. He did it in the dark so no one would see but we caught him. He no-tilled them into corn stalks. Since then the ground has refrozen. We'll see what that brings.
BTW it's not uncommon to plow down fertilizer in my area. My agronomist said it's better than leaving it on top and the plant will find it.
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Posted: 22 Mar 2017 at 7:24am |
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I plow in February too.........SNOW
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Posted: 22 Mar 2017 at 7:34am |
AC7060IL wrote:
Bill Long wrote:
I can never get over the RICH BLACK SOIL you are blessed to have in Central Illinois.Lot better than our red clay rock in central Maryland. Nice looking unit. Outstanding plow. Thanks for sharing. Good Luck! Bill Long |
You can see the IL Rt 16 moraine hills (Charleston, Shelbyville, Litchfield) where an ice flow retreated & melted). Like a giant bulldozer that stops pushing dirt, it left a line of hills, mostly on the south side of the highway. North of that highway, its flat. Another moraine is located farther north across IL Rt 9 (Bloomington - Gibson City, Paxton, Hoopeston). I believe these glaciers bulldozed rock, sediment, soils from areas as far north as Canada's Hudson Bay, US's great lakes, & everywhere in between. Look how Lake Michigan is predominately laying north to south. There is a water aquifer (under ground gravel & sand deposit) called the "Mahomet Aquifer". It stretches from near the southern tip of Lake Michigan south-southwest towards Mahomet and ends Just north of Taylorville by Willeys Station. You can dig down 40' in these areas and have upwards of a 1000 gallon of water a minute for wells. Lots of towns fill their water towers from it. |
Very interesting!
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Just following up with another update.
I used my 7060 & AC1300 24' FC to till & level this February plowed field. Since April 27th, we've had over 10" of rain, which spurred a flush of Lambquarter & Velvet leaf. Two days ago, it dried enough to allow tillage. I worked it twice. To help level it, I hit it at about a 45 degrees from straight on first pass, then did an opposing 45 degree angle on second pass. AC 7060 pulled it at 4th-Slow-High buttont for first pass & 5th-Slow-High button for second pass. It's 426 consumed 6.6gal/hr. Field is 33 acres x 2 passes = 66 acres. It required 6 hours & used a total of 39.65 gallons fuel. The AC1300 has 6" shovels at 3-4" depth which does a good job uprooting small 2-4" weeds. Usually a good hot sunny afternoon will finish killing uprooted weeds. But, within two hours of finishing FC, it rained again - 1.5 inches. So, I'll be working it again. I'll post some pictures later.
Edited by AC7060IL - 13 May 2017 at 10:17am
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Posted: 13 May 2017 at 7:57pm |
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That's one sweet looking plow I would like an 8 bottom like that!!
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