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My C Restoration (Update 9 July 16) |
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Hubnut
Orange Level Joined: 30 Jul 2014 Location: Gainesville, FL Points: 1812 |
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Got a few more items added to the back half of the tractor. The machine shop assured me they'd have my engine, head, crank, and flywheel back this week. We'll see. I ordered a Ross steering tool box, but it still wasn't right. I had to do some trimming to get it to fit. Colors are not correct--seems to be a bit taboo right now. Oh well, my tractor. I like it.
Edited by Hubnut - 15 May 2015 at 6:33pm |
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JohnCO
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Niwot Colo Points: 8992 |
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Hub, your shop is much too neat. You are making the rest of us look bad, please mess it up a bit. Thanks.
BTW, beautiful restoration job! Edited by JohnCO - 10 May 2015 at 1:21am |
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Hubnut
Orange Level Joined: 30 Jul 2014 Location: Gainesville, FL Points: 1812 |
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Steve in NJ
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Andover, NJ Points: 11565 |
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Oh Boy!!! Christmas come early!!!! I can see this dude running by next week! Have fun man. You're doin' one heck of a job on that see man!
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39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife
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Hubnut
Orange Level Joined: 30 Jul 2014 Location: Gainesville, FL Points: 1812 |
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Oh, by the way, I got my carburetor back from Steve in NJ and it looks like a work of art! Thanks Steve!
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Sugarmaker
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8168 |
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HN,
Wow this is looking good. The colors will work just fine! Your doing a great job! ( I do agree that you should clutter your shop a little more!:) Making me look like a slacker!) That engine will purr like a kitten! Your doing it right and the results will be awesome. Have you gotten a new tractor lined up for the second build? Great pictures! Regards, Chris |
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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.
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Hubnut
Orange Level Joined: 30 Jul 2014 Location: Gainesville, FL Points: 1812 |
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Chris,
Thanks. I just rattle-canned the engine. Not bad, but with our 80% humidity, it will take 3 weeks to cure. Gotta run out for some plastigauge. I hope with the line-boring I don't need to shim. At least that's what the machine shop said. Steve |
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Sugarmaker
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8168 |
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HN,
You will have fun doing the engine. New parts, fresh gaskets, new paint, lots of specs, torquing everything. Nice! Get us some pictures along the way. Regards, Chris |
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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.
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Hubnut
Orange Level Joined: 30 Jul 2014 Location: Gainesville, FL Points: 1812 |
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Started assembly of the engine. After painting, I checked the main bearings for clearance. The block was line-bored, so I assumed shimming wouldn't be necessary. I used red and green plastigage. The red is a wider range and I was getting 0.003 inches in all the bearings. I tried the red plastigage and got a little better numbers (0.002, 0.0022, and 0.0025 for 1, 2, and 3, respectively). All are considered outside specification of 0.001 to 0.002 inches. However, I decided this is good enough for my old engine. The rod bearings were much better. They were: 0.0015, 0.0017, 0.0019, and 0.0015. I am happy with these numbers.
I put the sleeves in and got all 4 pistons installed. It went fairly smoothly. I'm waiting on a ring gear, so I won't be able to put the engine on until then. I hope to get rest of the engine reassembled today or next weekend. |
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Sugarmaker
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8168 |
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Steve,
Wow great progress on the engine! Nice and clean! Thanks for the pictures of the engine build along the way. I think it will run fine with those clearances on the mains, but I am not the engine man. I think these engines ran for years much looser than that. Your making good steady progress on the "C"! When is the first parade? Regards, Chris |
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Hubnut
Orange Level Joined: 30 Jul 2014 Location: Gainesville, FL Points: 1812 |
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Thanks Chris. I summarized the money I have in it and it's a doozy! I'll post a summary of the costs at the conclusion of the build.
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Hubnut
Orange Level Joined: 30 Jul 2014 Location: Gainesville, FL Points: 1812 |
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Dick L
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Edon Ohio Points: 5082 |
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She will be an attention getter for sure. I love it!
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Hubnut
Orange Level Joined: 30 Jul 2014 Location: Gainesville, FL Points: 1812 |
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Thanks Dick. I am grateful also for your help.
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CrestonM
Orange Level Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8357 |
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Wow! After seeing all the trouble that these guys have with brake drums and their corresponding parts on the G's and this C, I'm beginning to wonder if my Ford is so bad after all... Brake drum removal on it was a breeze
Tractor looks great!!! A lot better than my Ford for sure!! Why does your shop get to be so nice and clean when mine was a huge mess Lol ! Edited by CrestonM - 31 May 2015 at 9:41pm |
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Steve in NJ
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Andover, NJ Points: 11565 |
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I like being different, and that's different! I like it! The White and Orange look nice together. Keep goin' man, yer' almost done! LOL!
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39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife
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CrestonM
Orange Level Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8357 |
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Is there something special about those fenders? They don't have much curve to them.
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GaryL
Orange Level Joined: 18 Jan 2015 Location: Oklahoma Points: 704 |
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Awesome build.
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IBWD MIke
Orange Level Joined: 08 Apr 2012 Location: Newton Ia. Points: 3474 |
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Looks great! Wish I could paint like that.
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structures
Silver Level Joined: 28 Feb 2011 Location: Beggs, OK Points: 331 |
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great progress!
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Hubnut
Orange Level Joined: 30 Jul 2014 Location: Gainesville, FL Points: 1812 |
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Thanks guys. Correct fenders for the C. Not paint, powder coating--I can't paint either. Thanks Steve, I like the cream and orange too.
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Sugarmaker
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8168 |
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Steve,
This is going to be a head turner! Very nice clean build your doing on this tractor! Great pictures. Thanks for posting your progress. So is the tank and hood going to be white? Regards, Chris |
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Hubnut
Orange Level Joined: 30 Jul 2014 Location: Gainesville, FL Points: 1812 |
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Chris,
Yes, they are. I was waiting to reveal when I installed them. You let the cat out of the bag. I bought blue lettering for the hood. I think it will really pop. Steve |
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Hubnut
Orange Level Joined: 30 Jul 2014 Location: Gainesville, FL Points: 1812 |
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bigcountry48
Orange Level Joined: 28 Aug 2011 Location: Georgia Points: 1099 |
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Wow, looks great!! Can't wait to see a video of her running!
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1950 B, 1952 pulling wd, and 1954 wd45
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Hubnut
Orange Level Joined: 30 Jul 2014 Location: Gainesville, FL Points: 1812 |
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Got her fired up for the first time tonight! No leaks so far--except a pinhole in the gas tank near the back belly. I'll fix tomorrow with JBWeld. She's only a hand cranker, so it took me about 10 cranks before she fired. Oil pressure went immediately up. I only ran her for about 5 minutes. The fuel bowl was leaking too. I've got a few more things to tidy up, then I should be able to test drive her. Hopefully this weekend. Thanks much to all members for the help and encouragement, but especially to Dick and Kenny for the help along the way. I'll post some pics over the weekend of the completed tractor.
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Ken in Texas
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Henderson, TX Points: 5919 |
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Hubnut. For Gods sake put a underhood muffler on your C please. Nothing as ugly as a big old tin can looking thing sticking above your pretty hood. Enlarging the hole will not be necessary with a under hood muffler. All the vendors stock new ones.
Glad to have a few of my used parts in your first Allis project. Kenny |
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Hubnut
Orange Level Joined: 30 Jul 2014 Location: Gainesville, FL Points: 1812 |
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Kenny,
I did buy an underhood muffler. I like the sound better too. |
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Ken in Texas
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Henderson, TX Points: 5919 |
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Steve
The 12 at the end of the engine casting number would indicate cast in 1940. Very early 38 Bs were #9 later 38s were 10s. 39 were 11s and 40s 12s. Some room for overlap of casting date and use in tractors has to be considered. This formula works for Bs as well as Cs before WWII Are you going to use electric start later. I would . |
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Sugarmaker
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8168 |
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Steve,
Your Allis C tractor restoration is nearing completion. Thanks for taking us along for the ride also!Great pictures! Sure helped keep me motivated. Really looks nice with the orange and white color scheme too. Your right, the blue decals look very good on the white. Hope it drives as good as it looks too! I forgot to ask what brand of rattle can orange did you use? It look good. Regards, Chris |
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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.
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