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    Posted: 11 Oct 2017 at 11:20pm
went to a specialty foot doc last month. he cut a lot of dead skin off my feet, then prescribed a medicated cream for me to use until my next visit. here's where it gets ugly...I took his prescription in to wally world, they said they wouldn't fill it because it contains an ingredient that they hafta buy and only use part of it and wouldn't be able to sell the rest of it. so we went to Walgreens, and they said the same thing. now...these 2 pharmacy's bought out all the good pharmacy's in our town and in surrounding towns so they wouldn't have any competition, and they also wouldn't tell us where we could go to have the prescription filled! sooooo...looking up pharmacy's in the big city and calling all over, finally found one that would fill it. drove down there, gave them the prescription and asked how long of wait? they told me they would prolly fill it 2 days from that day as they were really busy! WTF? they said they'd call me when it was done! o-k so I went back home empty handed. that was 70 miles -/+ that I had to drive for that! on the way home my phone rings, and it's the pharmacy I was just at, they said that I have an allergy to one of the ingrediants of the prescription, I verified the allergy. they said it shouldn't bother me, they also said that insurance won't pay for this prescription and I will have to pay for it before they fill it! $130. so I turn around and drive back to that place, start to write the check and they tell me the check has to clear before they can fill it! DOUBLE WTF! I don't have a credit card, so had to call the old lady.....oooops....I mean the loving wife for hers! WTF is in this stuff? they accepted that, then said they would mail me the order! when could I expect it? they didn't know! this was on a Monday, got it in the mail on Friday, when I got home I washed my feet, then applied this cream to the feet, within 2-3 minutes my feet swelled up, then my legs, then BIG time pain! I gots over and tried to wash off that cream, didn't get it all, and couldn't even walk for hours. I thinks this quack doc owes me a refund plus! and my regular doc is gonna get an earful too for sending me to this quack!     
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Damn! that is a lot of patience  they tried,,,,,,,,,,,,,, and for nothing it sounds like!!
Sorry, hope you can get it all fixed!!!!
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Shameless,

Buy some activated charcoal powder at the health food store and dust your foot and inside socks with it. Keep your sock on when you go to bed at night so it doesn't blacken the sheets. It will do miracles!

Do a search on the uses of activated charcoal - you'll be amazed.

www.charcoalremedies.com

www.buyactivatedcharcoal.com
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Wow Shameless, you do see their little DIPloma hangin on the wall, says license to practice.... does not say license to treat patients skillfully...
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Activated charcoal will do wonders on a lot of things.
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won't the charcoal dry out the feet?
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re: 'cut off a lot of dead skin'...

Here's two things I'd lke you to do. Both are asy and healthy and don't cost a lot.

1) take 3 to 6 pills of Vitamin D. Each pill is 1,000 units. I take 6 for 3 days then down to 3 every 1-2 days from October to April. Vit D is the 'sunshine' vitamin and it CURED my athelete's feet in 3 days about 6 winters ago.

2)get a tube of vitamn E cream and rub onto your feet,wear a 'special' pair of socks to bed. Vit E is the  GREAT skin healer. I put on paper cuts, knife wound, burns and within a day or 2 the wound is almost gone, skin healthy and NO scab!

When you figure out that foot skin is kinda important, you then see that stuffing it into a dark,damp place for 8-16 hrs a day( socks and boots) then into another pair of socks ,well, ain't a great idea. You need to give extra special care.

and YES, the doc owes you all the cost INCLUDING gas money !

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First off, sincerely sorry you're going through this issue.
 
Whenever I read something like this though, I truly gotta wonder why so many are so quick to slam the doctor!  Reading through your story, if it's a good accurate account of events, if you want to lay blame on someone, it sounds like the pharmacy, as they noticed the allergy to an ingredient, then told you it would be fine.  That's a weird one!  Drug reaction came within an inch of killing my dad 4 years ago...
 
Sounds to me like the doc did his best to help, prescribed something that he thought would help (though granted it must be exotic), then you had a reaction to it. 
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  Hey Shameless,,,Gosh,,,I feel for you,,Good Buddy,,,Now,I ain't no Dr but I think ole TBone is on the right track and you should go back to your regular Dr and remind him of your allergies and your reaction to thet particular medicine. Most Drs will tell you that the benefits of a drug that is perscribed,,,outweigh some of side effects.  ( Think I said that right) In your case looks like the side effects outweighed the benefits.
 Please go back to your regular Dr and give him your feedback and he should have a different cream to address the issues along with your allergies,,,,,OK,,???
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regular Doc did prescribe different creams, and none of them helped. I suppose it would if I had my feet in 5 gallon pails of the stuff and walked around that way! lol the problem is my feet dry out so bad, then if they do swell, the crack open and leak out! I haven't had socks on for over a year except my compression ones but they only cover the ankle and legs. because of all the leakage, I go thru a pair of shoes a week, so been buying them cheap slip on ones from wally world for $9. a pair. yeah T-Bone I am blaming the Doc, as he had my allergy list when he prescribed the medicine, it said what I was alleric to, and he prescribed it anyway! I didn't know it at the time because I can't read greek! Jay...I do take vit D pills, and I drink lots of vit D milk too. I've never seen the vit E cream, but will look for it. thanks!
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If that doc had a full list and prescribed it, yep, he's at fault too.
 
On the other hand, like Joe said, he may have truly felt the reward was worth the risk.  And I truly am sorry you went through (are going through) the ordeal.
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have you tied just plain Vaseline on the dry feet.  It does wonders for me.
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Lot of flags up there in that post - When wife's meds amounted to about 14 different meds a day - interaction of couple were a problem when she seen a doc besides her regular internist . 
 Was using Walgreens Drug stores and they seemed to somehow get the order so screwed up that each prescription was filled on a different day - so it was like 10 trips a month to get something filled . In fact twice they mixed labels on meds where one drug to be taken once a day they had for 3 times - 
 
 Nurse practitioner who made house calls when Rox was released from hospital to home almost killed her pushing high doses of potassium - almost OD on the stuff - had to take her to ER - and was a 5 day stay to get things in order . 
 Same with a nose bleed that would not stop - nurse said keep taking warferin  pills and go to see red doc on monday - this was on a friday afternoon - ER later that night - 4 days in hospital and 5 pints of blood - specialist to stop bleeding called - couple doses of vitamin K 
  So there a re quacks out there who seem to not care or are totally INEPT in interactions .
Have to say the pharmacists at local Walmart were fantastic when I changed Rox's meds to there - besides personal greetings and doing everything to get all meds on a basis or due at same time or close - guess when you spend $5,000 a year at a place for couple years  they do treat you good .  ( Still when I go into Walmart the pharmacy help and pharmacists say hello and or wave if i pass through the area. )


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I asked about the vaseline, and doc said no because they can't breathe! PffffT!
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Hey Shameless I'm almost damn afraid to suggest anything after reading your story BUT it's something to at least consider and research. Might want to try soaking feet in Epsom salt bath to both soften them and reduce swelling but NOT!...... NOT!!!  if you have any open sores from the cutting. Just something to think about. I'm pretty hard on my feet especially during hunting season and soaking feet in epsom salt bath does wonders for me. 
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Really terrible chain of events to have happen to you Shameless. Wish I could offer you some help. I sure hope things get better for you.
I have to share a little story, about the benefits, or lack of, when it comes to medications. About a year; year and a half ago, my friend/neighbor's aunt from out of state had very serious cancer; like she wasn't expected to make it cancer. I thought it was all over for her. Fast forward to about a month ago. My neighbor's cousin gets married here in town, and his aunt, who I thought had passed away from cancer, is there and healthy as a horse! I very tenderly asked this guy about his aunt, and how she had survived. What he said was, that they took her off ALL of her medications, and put her on hospice. Well, seemed like taking her off all of the medications was the best thing for her, as she slowly got better and better, and is really good now. Go figure. Darrel
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Dude with your foot problem you should be wearing socks with nano silver woven into the material, silver is an excellent antibacterial agent.

The homesteaders used to put a silver dollar in the milk can to keep it fresh longer.

If the hospitals did as this Campus did, use silver plated door handles ti cut down on the transfer of bacteria, staph infections would be history.

http://https://phys.org/news/2013-07-silver-coating-bacteria-campus-door.html

Can a door handle keep you healthy? That depends on what's on it. Most are teeming with bacteria: staph, E. coli, Enterococcus and sometimes even Salmonella. That stuff can make you sick.

Doors in the Reed, Prischak, Burke and Junker buildings at Penn State Erie, The Behrend College, are now coated with something different: Agion silver, an antimicrobial compound that doctors put on catheters and heart valves. Moisture – in this case, the sweat and oils on a person's hand – activates the silver ions, which bind to the bacteria's cell walls. The cells die, and the surface is cleaner.

"It does seem to be effective," said Beth Potter, assistant professor of microbiology. Her students have swab-tested 50 door handles on campus, measuring bacterial differences on surfaces with and without the silver powder. The treated handles are consistently cleaner.

Manufacturers are applying the silver film to all kinds of products: cell phones, computer keyboards, staplers, electric razors. Office Depot puts it on pens. Adidas uses it to stop shoes from smelling bad.

Greg Yahn, president of Advanced Finishing USA, sprays the Agion film onto hospital doors. After a meeting with Diane Parente, professor of management and director of the Interdisciplinary Business with Engineering Studies program, he had ideas for even more uses. Students suggested adding the film to water bottles, bus-strap handles, gas pumps and emergency-exit panels.

"They really took it to the next level," Yahn said. "They did the research, saw what was possible and turned a 'what if' discussion into something tangible."

Parente then brought in Mary Beth Pinto, professor of marketing. Pinto's students thought through the one problem Yahn had not been able to solve: How do you market an invisible product?

For an early test project – a stairwell railing in the Burke Center – Yahn had given the Agion film a bright white glossy finish. People were reluctant to touch it, thinking it was wet paint.

Yahn switched to a clear coating, which he applied to the door handles at two local Country Fair convenience stores. That look posed a different problem.

"If you walk up and grab the handle, you have no clue that it's benefiting you," Yahn said. "There's nothing to give it away."

Pinto's students developed signs and logos that explained the value of Agion products. They surveyed shoppers, asking if they worried about germs. (Some didn't. Others opened their purses, showing vials of hand sanitizer.) They filmed commercials, touting the benefits of antimicrobial products.

The next step, the students said, is to develop a small, industry-accepted logo – a mark similar to the Underwriters Laboratories stamp, or the recycling triangle – that consumers can use to identify Agion-coated surfaces.

"Ideally, we'll get to some kind of identifiable symbol," Yahn said. "Something like the Nike swoosh, where you know, from 10 feet away, 'That's antimicrobial. It's OK to touch it.'"



Read more at: https://phys.org/news/2013-07-silver-coating-bacteria-campus-door.html#jCp


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Shameless,I have a friend that feet crack. He puts Neosporin on them when they crack. Wraps it in saran wrap,then a sock.Says it heals up pretty quick this way. HTH Tracy
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Pm me your address. Will send you a foot bar made of all natural stuff. Just do NOT walk across a vinal floor. You will skate if you do. Promise to NOT publish your address. We ship these all over the world, having many repeat customers.
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I have soaked (and still do) in Epsom salts, one doc says it's good to do that, and the foot doc says it wouldn't do anything for them! and sometimes my feet will really stink, even after a shower or bath, and I put alum (the stuff used in baking) in my shoes and that takes the stink away. rusty, i'll check into that more...thanks! o-k Tom...i'll try your stuff too! Darrel...my mechanic's mom was on all kinds of meds too, and was finally put into a home, and seemed to be getting worse, he ordered all meds to stop, as all she was doing was sleeping all the time! and she got better little by little too, and lived a lot more happy for many more years.
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Apple Cider Vinegar........soak em.  Oh an while you're at it, mix up some of that DJ's toxic stuff an drink it.  Clean you up good,,,,,,,, inside and out .LOL
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I've done the apple cider vinegar before.
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Originally posted by shameless dude shameless dude wrote:

I've done the apple cider vinegar before.


Dang,,,,,can't ya'll just sense all the enthusiasm and,,,,,,and,,,..all his excitement,,him talkin bout the ACV,,,,I like thet in him,,,,,,,,ClapLOL
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Darrel have you tried Bag Balm on them. That stuff use to heal up anything almost over night.
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I would be afraid to suggest anything! Old Shameless has some serious foot problems. I have trouble with my hands cracking open and bleeding in the winter. My dad suffered from the same problem. Must be an inherited family trait. The best product I found is called. Outdoor Hands, I buy it at TSC. I treat first with triple antibiotic ointment and then use Outdoor Hands. I don't know if they make a product for feet.
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K... please try Vitamin D, 3-6 pills a day ! cracking skin is a sure sign the skin needs 'something'. The 'sunshine' vitamin we get all summer long but not enough in winter, fall or spring. The skin need D to be healthy and NOT crack. cracks let in bad bugs, infections, etc. some medicated cremes have vit D and E but the pills get D to all the skin !!

it worked for me....should for you.

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Best of luck to you Shameless. 
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Shameless watch my pocket watch. Watch it swing left to right and back left again. You will become very sleepy........................

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Have you tried Carmex? It actually a lip balm, but works great on cracked hands and fingers.
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