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    Posted: 31 Oct 2017 at 5:38am
I am thinking of buying a trailer down the road. Looking for suggestions on what to consider. The biggest tractor I have is a WD-45. I was thinking of maybe a 7k car hauler. I don't plan to use it much. I will be pulling it with a F150. 
Everything is impossible until someone does it! WD45-trip loader 1947 c w/woods belly mower, 1939 B, #3 sickle mower 1944 B Misc other equipment that my wife calls JUNK!
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Well, it works for me.....
Mine is old, only 16' deck boards and easily hauls dead PikUps to the scrapyard and the occasional D-14 to neighbours farm. E-brakes will be on front axle, get both if possible makes it easier  for stopping. Cancel the OD when hauling heavy stuff( yeah THAT is in the manual...)
ADD backup lights to trailer, 2 up front , 2 at rear. Easy 7th wire is in the cable. You'll figure out why they are useful AFTER backing up a narrow lane,at 2AM....sigh
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I bought a good used car hauler last year. cheap, 16' deck and 2' beavertail with slide in ramps. Needed tires and fenders but still in quite good frame condition. I have installed diamond plate fenders, new tires and added a spare, will need two floor boards(2x8x16) then will repaint and will look good as new. My 180 rides well on it with the bush hog attached and does not seem to affect tongue weight. 2 5/16 ball 4 wheel electric brakes made by Trailerman Trailers.
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I've got a 16' car hauler and getting ready to upgrade to an 18' with at least 10k axles, brakes and with good trailer tires (vs. car tires).  Just feel the car hauler is maxed and I also have heavier tractors that I'd never put on it.  I always question the 'hold-up' ability of those car tires...... And, Jaybmillers idea about back-up lights is a good one!  Going to try that and would also like good running lights that show up well in the mirrors when running at night.

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I bought a 20' 2-3500 lb. axels, Legend 9 years ago. I would not recommend one to anyone.

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that is the big thing is wheel size - 8 lug mount so can run tires heavy enough to carry loads - both axles need brakes in many states to be legal - 
 I run 16" LT tires 235x75x16 tires on my tri axle trailer - and on the heavy trailer - smaller tandem of son has 15" and finding tires at reasonable price is the big thing , then rims don't match tire load is other problem. 

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Dusty why would you not recommend the trailer? Is it the brand of trailer or the size of the trailer? I do have a 10k equipment trailer I can use if I want but for convenience it would be nice to have my own.
Everything is impossible until someone does it! WD45-trip loader 1947 c w/woods belly mower, 1939 B, #3 sickle mower 1944 B Misc other equipment that my wife calls JUNK!
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the trouble with a 16 ft twin 3500# axles is the trailer is then RATED to haul 7000#... consider the trailer weight is 2000# or a little more, that leaves about 5000# for the load.  You could haul a small pickup or a small D series tractor .... most anything else would be a little overload.......
 
I traded ours off and got a 18 ft with beavertail and two 5200# axles... That's 10,400 # total. With a 3000# trailer, that's 7400 # rated load. We use it to haul a 7500# Bobcat ( short distance, several times per year) and misc 1/2 - 3/4 ton trucks as needed. .... In Illinois you can get a  "under 10K" plate for reasonable $$.     I have  16 inch , 6 bolt rims with 2540 # tires ( x4).


Edited by steve(ill) - 31 Oct 2017 at 7:13pm
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Around here seem nobody thinks of the trailer weight,, 2 , 7000 lb axles, good for 14000,,,, see loads going around the blacktop roads with tires having a bad lean
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Yea, I use to have a 69' 3/4 ton Chevy with overload springs. Rated at 8800# GROSS... I use to tell guys it was not overloaded until you had 9000# of sand in the bed !
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Had a 7000 lb car trailer, worked good for WD, then got skid steer and a 12000lb rated trailer, sold the other one and the heavier one is just more stable, four wheel brakes instead of 2.
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I've been hauling my WD 45 one a 2 3500 lb axle car hauler for many years. Trailer wieghts 1500 lbs empty deck is down between the axle so the ride height is very low. I have three detachable ramps rarely use them . Mostly I haul the tractor and mower to the church back up to the curb at the edge of the parking lot and back off. When done just drive back on. Tractor with one set wieghts is 4200 lbs 500 for the mower 1500 for the trailer. I tow with a half ton suburban. Trailer has15" LT tires on it. I've hauled a tractor from Missouri to ND. For a bigger tractor I'd need a bigger trailer. For a bigger trailer I'd need a bigger truck. If I need to move my 190 I drive it or borrow a truck and trailer from the farm.
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buy an enclosed with a ramp door, then when you go to shows you can sleep inside on fold up beds and not hafta find a potty so far away!
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I bought the trailer to haul my A.C. tractors & equipment on plus we wanted to take our car with us to Florida with us behind our motor home. 
The first winter, after arriving to FL, I didn't like the way the trailer sat when hitched to our motor home. Because the hitch on the motor home is rather high, the trailer ran high in the front. So I was thinking about moving the axels from the top side of the springs to the bottom side. I was looking at how hard of a job it would be, and discovered that one set of u-bolts had never been tightened, I had to replace them in FL.
Let me say that I never over loaded this trailer.
By the time we got back home to MI. The fenders, which were welded to the 3" C-channel frame, were starting to tear off. The frame flexing and starting to bend over the axels.
I moved the axels to the bottom side of the springs, welded some flat stock to the frame from the front to the rear of where the springs attached to the frame.
I also rebuilt the fenders and bolted them on so they are rather to remove if needed.

Also a friend talked me into using a weight distribution hitch, which was a very good thing.

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Originally posted by steve(ill) steve(ill) wrote:




Hi Steve, My little 16' is set up the same, 15" load range E tires six lug 5200# axles but the tires drop it back to 9000#. I have since replaced the jack and fenders.

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re: trailer capacity
 a trailer with 2 - 3500# axles can carry 7700# , IF it's got an A-coupler up front.
I learned this 'trick' from the RV trailer guys, totally legit. Read the build plate.
ALL the utilty trailers I make , I weld on the A-coupler. It actually is a better, easier design( 2 6' lengths of steel for tongue, makes mounting a storage box easy too.
TIRES are the big factor. ST 15" ones are rated for 1700# when filled with air...
My current build has a 4" drop axle, so deck is about 13" off the road instead of 17. Makes loading ATV or lawn tractors easier AND is hauls down the road better as the CofG( Center of Gravity) is lower.

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Ted I saw the second one. Since my truck has a topper on it I have to stay with a bumper hitch style. I am just in the thought stage right now but I am keeping my eyes open. All the replies have been most helpful. 
Everything is impossible until someone does it! WD45-trip loader 1947 c w/woods belly mower, 1939 B, #3 sickle mower 1944 B Misc other equipment that my wife calls JUNK!
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If that gooseneck was closer, it would probably be in my yard tomorrow!
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Folks,
 I have this car hauler that is 16 foot deck and 2 foot beaver tail. Three ramps, center one is removable. I really like the deck height for getting on and off and chaining down the tractors. I use this for the WD series tractors and the D17 which is around 5200 lb. It works OK but some days I would like to have larger carrying capacity and be able to haul two tractors to local pulls. I guess this was my starter trailer. Just up graded the truck so I have the towing power for a bigger trailer too. I paid around $1800 (used) for it and the winch. Winch is housed in the aluminum box at front of deck. Did a little work on it and a coat of paint. Converted the ball hitch to a pin hitch to match the truck.  I did have to put on new U bolts due to the nuts rusting away! I like pulling a goose neck.  I really like the idea of back up lights too! I need those! Where do you normally mount them? These trailers work good. good luck finding the trailer that will do the job for you.
lots of used ones out there. most need some type of attention!
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Edited by Sugarmaker - 02 Nov 2017 at 3:14am
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You can transfer weight to the tow vehicle - a hitch should place about 10 to 20% of load onto hitch . So the 2 3500 axles would be 7000 - 2000 trailer weight + that transfer weight . 
 Odd one DOT inspector told me max load of trailer is as a stand alone unit - no weight transfer allowed to tow vehicle / unless running a semi-trailer license plate - then all load is transferred to tow vehicle for license plate tax ( it's all about the taxes )
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I agree with truckerfarmer, that is a GREAT deal on a gooseneck!!!
Heck, I'd come over and help ya take that stupid topper off whenever you needed the trailer.  (or I did LOL)
Once you use a gooseneck, you'll NEVER WANT another bumper pull.
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Thanks for the offer Ted!
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I have an H & H, 24 ft total with 20 foot hauling capacity.  It is rated for 9, 995lbs from the factory, I'm told to keep it under the 10k thresh-hold.  It weighs a little over 2k so it can carry appx 8k load.  It hauls like a dream.  I built up some sides for it, 2 foot high and haul a heck of a lot of firewood with it.  Brakes on both 5k axles.

I highly recommend an H & H, great trailers.  I don't use it much anymore, I paid I think 4,200 for it new, would sell it for 3,000 if interested.  I'm not trying to sell it very hard so if not interested, that's cool.  A little more snow and it will not be going anywhere til spring.
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shameless dude-buy an enclosed with a ramp door, then when you go to shows you can sleep inside on fold up beds and not hafta find a potty so far away!

So you cut a hole in the floor for the "relief tube"?
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