Allis F40 fork lift

here is a pic of my set up

Folks,

Just playing in the shop. Added a little starting fluid and some choke and the F40 fired up quickly.

Still doesnt seem to be charging at all when reved up, when checking on the battery terminals. I had replaced the alternator but fuel leaked into it, which may have not helped it? Also need to fiqure out how to check for alternator charging right at the alternator terminals to assure it is or is not working.

It moves and lifts:

Only yellow I had but the fuel tank is MUCH more secure:

Regards,

Chris and Cheryl

D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.

Chris

Here is a link to a Website that might be some help with your Forklift.

G

https://www.forkliftaction.com/forum/allis-chalmers-forklift-help.aspx?t=27489

With the cap off you may find the distributor tag# if you can use a mirror to see around the back, if necessary. Of course better yet, if you pull the distributor out, as the digits are so small. If I remember right, I think the points are the same as in the Allis tractors. You could pull the cap off one of your tractors and compare.

Currently- WD,WC,3WF's,2 D14's B. Previously- I 600,TL745,200,FL9,FR12,H3,816 LBH. Earth has no sorrow that Heaven cannot heal!

Folks,

The F40 has starting issues, Yea I have only done a farmers tune up, fixing a bare wire going into the distributor and cleaning the points, rotor and cap contacts.

I am starting to fab the brackets to hold the gas tank. It has been setting on blocks of wood for a while. (I have to age these projects like fine wine):)

If anyone knows the points, rotor and cap numbers please let me know.

Regards,

Chris and Cheryl

D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.

If you were ME, you'd just make sure the distributor shaft isn't sloppy, then dial the advance up about 4 degrees, then try it, and see how it responds. Typically, a gaseous (NG/Propane) application will run about 5 degrees LESS advance than liquid fuel.

Reason... On a GOOD day, liquid fuel (gasoline) comes into the chamber only about half vaporized. That means, when the mixture is first touched off, the part which has evaporated AND mixed with air (it can be evaporated, but NOT aereated) will burn, and generate heat and pressure, which stirs up and improves evap of the rest. This kinda slows the whole flame-front down a bit... and of course, some doesn't get evaporated, so it goes out the exhaust valves.

Remember how, in the distillate fuel (kerosene) setups, the fuel gets heated? It's heavier, and doesn't evaporate as well, so they preheat the fuel to help it evaporate.

Natural gas doesn't come to us in liquid format, and propane evaporates either in the tank (gaseous withdrawl) or in the evaporator (the big round thing just downstream of the tank with the water hoses that you took off), so it doesn't need this.

I suspect that, with the timing being a bit too advanced, she's probably not getting the flame far enough, fast enough, to burn clean.

Road gaseous engines with mechanical and vacuum advance sometimes have different advance curves for similar reasons, but your forklift probably doesn't have it, it's probably all-out just above idle... or possibly BEFORE idle (meaning, it's retarded just for starting, and once running, it's all-out). Either way, if it DOES have an advance mech, make sure it ain't stuck.

Ten Amendments, Ten Commandments, and one Golden Rule solve most every problem. Citrus hand-cleaner with Pumice does the rest.

Chris- I didn't see any resolution to the chokey-smokey notes, but if you haven't YET... please check the point gap and ignition timing. When running gaseous fuels, the amount of spark advance is different, to accomodate fuel flame rates... if it's still running at propane timing, you're in for a substantial improvement.

Small, and Tiny forklifts in the shop are fantastic... especially if you can pop the forks off, and put an overhead hook on them. Some guys take the backstop off and use the forks as the hook, which works, but guys then use the forks without a backstop (please don't) so that they don't hit overhead obstructions.

Doesn't matter if you're experienced, or new- the best way to operate a forklift, is slow, gentle, and careful. Never forget that you have a heavy object hanging on the forks, and another heavy object hanging in front of the radiator... small as it may be, it is VERY heavy, and going over a pet, a child, or a foot, will be very, very permanent... and bumping into a wall, or vehicle, or piano, no matter how gently, will leave a very greasy impression on those objects, after they're shoved to one side. LOL

(who let that dumb spammer {ASP] in up there?)

Ten Amendments, Ten Commandments, and one Golden Rule solve most every problem. Citrus hand-cleaner with Pumice does the rest.

don't know about 'right', but the biggest that fits onto the cradle is 'right'.

3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)

Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water

Hello. I have a allis chalmers f40 forklift, it has the wrong battery in it has the wrong battery in it now, can someone tell me the correct battery size for it?

Snowman,

Darn that is getting to look really Good! Nice work scrubbing and painting the counter weight.

Appreciate the info on the oil too.

Share the paint type and color. Is it close to what the original was? Don't know if mine will ever look that good, but there is hope. Just need lots of money and much more time!

Thanks for the pictures too.

Boat season peak must have past?

I sure do like my F40 in (our) shop! Will be using it to move hemlock around soon too.

Have my gas tank to mount and other things still to do on mine. Easily distracted with new toys!

Regards,

Chris

Edited by Sugarmaker - 20 Jun 2021 at 7:08pm

D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.

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OK, dumbass figured it out

[QUOTE=jaybmiller]

re: Around here I have to restore a screw driver before I can use it!

hahaha

I have to FIND the screwdriver, and by the time I do, I'm wonder WHAT do I need this for ..........

sigh

gettin old is fun...

And when you find the screw driver you found the last job with it wasn't finished and when you finish that job you don't remember why you was looking for the screw driver

Edited by tadams(OH) - 08 May 2021 at 2:26pm

Chris, you make a very good point about the seat looking good. It sets the 'tone' for your rig and how we feel when we approach our piece of equipment is very important. When you go to sell a tractor don't even think of a successful sale with a ratty looking seat. First impressions are very critical. Tires and wheels are another determining factor in how you form your image of the overall 'status' of what you're looking at. That's why Jay mentions painting wheels Wink

. Chris, don't allow yourself to think we're picking on your progress :)

That backrest looks great!

You mention stinky exhaust... one F40 I had, had a dirty exhaust problem which was reduced by 90% after removing excess restriction from the air cleaner/filter, no doubt the engine was starting to get tired.

Keep on trucking... 'lift trucking' that is LOL

Currently- WD,WC,3WF's,2 D14's B. Previously- I 600,TL745,200,FL9,FR12,H3,816 LBH. Earth has no sorrow that Heaven cannot heal!

yep...it's a 'domino project'...jes like ALL of mine...

while the seat base is being redone..

..clean,prep, paint the seat mtg base

..clean ,prep, paint the forklift top there.

..clean,prep paint the grille by your shins..

..yeah, do the side weights while yer there....

best do the rear rims too.......

hehehe

same up here...

decided I NEED to add 7 Way RV powerplug on D-14 'Troy' to recharge dump trailer battery while using trailer. After 5 hrs seat time...load,haul,dump,load,haul dump.....more on Monday.

sigh..no end of projects......

oh yeah, wife cleaned toaster(power cord still in wall, NOW it don't work..

nuther domino

3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)

Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water

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