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IBWD MIke
Orange Level Joined: 08 Apr 2012 Location: Newton Ia. Points: 3407 |
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Posted: 28 Jul 2020 at 7:25am |
Good work, and nice looking tractor.
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Sugarmaker
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8166 |
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Rim work really came out nice! I like the look of the coating. Very smooth. I may have to try some of that. Rim rust is a problem with have to address at some point. Thanks for the photos! Very good looking D17! I need to go spend some quality time with mine too. Regards, Chris
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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.
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Play Farmer
Orange Level Joined: 13 Jan 2016 Location: NNY Points: 732 |
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I sure bled this job for long enough! Between my real job and being so darn hot this one wasn't high on the to do list.
I loaded it up and brought it home on May 31st; By June 30th I finally had it unloaded, dismounted, and off to my brothers house for some plasma cutter work; As bad as it was we decided to lay in a bigger piece, overlapping it, and welded in on both sides. I should have taken more pictures - I didn't, sorry. After a little welding and working, I coated the inside with Loctite PC 7227 Brushable Ceramic. This stuff is amazing and virtually indestructible as it's being used. It will **NEVER** rust there again. The stuff works well and leaves a glass smooth finish. Tube wear is not an issue. Last Sat**day I finally got it mounted back up. Here was the rotted out part; The new location for the valve stem; Back together; And back outside ready to work... |
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Sugarmaker
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8166 |
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Mike,
Those rims and tires look good on the D17! I agree with Ted. A full paint job is in order too! :) Regards, Chris
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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.
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IBWD MIke
Orange Level Joined: 08 Apr 2012 Location: Newton Ia. Points: 3407 |
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Ted, don't hold your breathe on a whole paint job! Have other bigger, more important projects I need to get started on. That red work bench has supported many an Allis project, and will continue to do so until it quits moving, kind of a quest at this point. Still have plenty of that good beer, I ration it. Drink Iowa domestic so I don't run out of the good stuff before it's safe to go get more! Edit; While swapping the tires I saw A LOT of grease/dirt build up on the final drives. That makes me think a look in the pans is in the future and possibly a seal replacement or two. Have done one or two on a WD, not fun but not horrible either.
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Ted J
Orange Level Joined: 05 Jul 2010 Location: La Crosse, WI Points: 18657 |
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I hate to rain on your parade Mike, but that 17 looks terrible now.....when are you going to start painting the WHOLE thing? LOL I like your red 'tool bench' LOL! Did you run out of beer yet?
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IBWD MIke
Orange Level Joined: 08 Apr 2012 Location: Newton Ia. Points: 3407 |
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Got the tires/wheels mounted today. See it I can get a pic or two to post.
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Play Farmer
Orange Level Joined: 13 Jan 2016 Location: NNY Points: 732 |
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Glad I popped in today and saw this post. A rusted rim is why my D17 has been sidelined. Just last night I put a battery on the charger thinking I might try to bring it home today.
I'm not 100% sure what size the rims are but I might be looking for a patch piece. And not to be "that guy" I also think I might have a good donor thats a little smaller too I'd be willing to donate/share to anyone needing a piece. The corn and beans are in, time to get to work getting the D17 back in the rotation. Edited by Play Farmer - 25 May 2020 at 8:35am |
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Sugarmaker
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8166 |
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Mike,
Great job on the wheels! Yes one of my phobias, Wheels and tires!:) You have some awesome farm land around you too. Weather is nicer! Those wheels are going to look sharp on the D17. Thanks for the update, and pictures too. Regards, Chris
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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.
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IBWD MIke
Orange Level Joined: 08 Apr 2012 Location: Newton Ia. Points: 3407 |
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Good progress today, got the weights off and paint on the centers. One needs one more coat, may get these things mounted tomorrow.Getting the weights
cleaned up and painted may take awhile. Also working on another 'rim
project', this one for the 720. Just need to clean up and paint. Going
to mount a set of 33-12.50-15's on them when I get them bought.
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IBWD MIke
Orange Level Joined: 08 Apr 2012 Location: Newton Ia. Points: 3407 |
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Things have picked up a bit. Got the second center cleaned up and primered, also got some (white) paint on the inside of the first. Originally was going to be orange but looking at the 17, it's centers are white and I want to keep it that way. The locks that are going on are orange, so this is going to look like one of Sugarmaker's projects. (Except that the rest of the tractor's paint won't)! With a little bit of luck maybe I'll get the rest of the paint laid down today and can get them assembled tomorrow. Starting on power steering on the 'Wide Front' today, best to keep several Allis projects in process at once!
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IBWD MIke
Orange Level Joined: 08 Apr 2012 Location: Newton Ia. Points: 3407 |
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Got a little more done on this, cleaned up one wheel center and got some primer and paint on the inside. The outside has some battle scars I want to smooth out with a flap-wheel before paint. Raining here today so may get more clean up done. When I started this I was going to put these wheels/tires on my NF 45. Have changed my mind, they will be going on the 17. Not a big fan of the long-bar short-bars that are on it now. Also that 45 already has fantastic rubber on it. On the down side? The wheel weights on that 17 will now need a fresh coat of paint and handling those things isn't much fun! |
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Sugarmaker
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8166 |
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Mike,
Those rims and tries look great. Maybe someday a set of 16.9-28's on one of the WD series tractors just for fun! They would work very well on your 17 also. Thanks for the update! Regards, Chris
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IBWD MIke
Orange Level Joined: 08 Apr 2012 Location: Newton Ia. Points: 3407 |
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Update time once again, finally! Took yesterday off work because of the nice weather. Had the rims painted and ready and a new set of tubes. Got the first one put together and then managed to start the second one going the same way! Had to pop it back off the rim and turn it around. You can see in the one picture the flat for the valvestem that I 'embossed'. The embossing process involved a rosebud on the torch, the horn of an anvil, and a big ball peen. Even cherry red that rim was tough! Think I could have centered the hole a little better, not sure what happened there. Where I'm working the D-17 is 'watching' me. I started this project thinking these wheels/tires were going on my NF 45. Now I'm torn, they would look awfully good on that 17! They will probably end up on the 45, at least for a while. Seems like Eldon moved tires around quite a bit? Need to get the centers cleaned up, painted then the changeover can commence.
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Sugarmaker
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8166 |
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GG,
Yes that rim will not get better. New rims are available. It may run a long time as it is too. Regards, Chris
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garden_guy
Orange Level Joined: 05 Jul 2013 Location: Illinois Points: 1109 |
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Dang, such great work!! I'm afraid this rim on my WD is about to this point right now: Unfortunately I can't weld nor have anything to unmount the tire with! |
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IBWD MIke
Orange Level Joined: 08 Apr 2012 Location: Newton Ia. Points: 3407 |
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Update time, (finally). Been kind of slow on this project, it is kind of low priority. Haven't got the centers cleaned up yet but did get the wheel wire brushed yesterday. Too windy to do any painting and I need to emboss a flat for the valve-stem. Getting closer.
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IBWD MIke
Orange Level Joined: 08 Apr 2012 Location: Newton Ia. Points: 3407 |
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Ok, I had completely forgotten about this.
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Mikez
Orange Level Access Joined: 16 Jan 2013 Location: Usa Points: 8089 |
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Hi Mike sorry I didn't respond. It's a 13"-26" rim
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Sugarmaker
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8166 |
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Mike,
You got it! Kids, grand kids, and great grand kids in the sugarhouse making syrup! Thanks for checking on me! Regards, Chris
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IBWD MIke
Orange Level Joined: 08 Apr 2012 Location: Newton Ia. Points: 3407 |
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Chris, haven't seen you on here a lot recently. Busy in the sugar shack?
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HD6GTOM
Orange Level Joined: 30 Nov 2009 Location: MADISON CO IA Points: 6627 |
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When I first got into the tire business in 1986 we could buy the rim hole weld on part. I started out with 50 of them and sold them all. They make a nice rim repair without causing tube problems.
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Sugarmaker
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8166 |
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Mike,
Looking very sharp! Thanks for the update. It may prompt me in to doing something orange related too. ( Oh yea I did call and order a new set of 14.9-28's for the WZ, so I guess that is something!:)) Regards, Chris
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IBWD MIke
Orange Level Joined: 08 Apr 2012 Location: Newton Ia. Points: 3407 |
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Small update; Got all the locks painted and assembled. Now if the weather would cooperate I could get the centers cleaned up and painted.
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IBWD MIke
Orange Level Joined: 08 Apr 2012 Location: Newton Ia. Points: 3407 |
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Ted, I hope to make it this year, should probably be looking for a motel room now. If I bring a tractor, and I would like to, it will probably be the 'Wide Front', with model 63 plow. Last years one day whirlwind trip didn't give us time to even watch any field demos let alone go out and plow. Small update on the project; made it out to the farm and found all the rest of the parts I need for this. Got the 4 eccentrics sand blasted, working on getting things primered now. The two wheel centers I found will need some serious clean-up before paint but that will have to wait for better weather.
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Ted J
Orange Level Joined: 05 Jul 2010 Location: La Crosse, WI Points: 18657 |
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Looking good Mike!! You going to haul it to Hutch this year? Are YOU coming to Hutch again this year?
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IBWD MIke
Orange Level Joined: 08 Apr 2012 Location: Newton Ia. Points: 3407 |
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No. That's just the recommended rim width. Pullers have been putting tires on wider than 'recommended' rims for years. Those are on 12" rims, the 16.9s are going on 13s, recommended is 15 but Allis put them on 13 for years. Have a set that way on my D-17, look fine.
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Sugarmaker
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8166 |
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Mike,
Those tires will look real good on any W series tractor! Your rim work and parts are going to look good! That's a good looking WD45 too. So that is the front end that can be easily changed to a wide front. I see it says 14.9-28 on 13 inch rim. I have some of my rims out at 14 inches. Think there is any down side to that? Side wall support issues? Regards, Chris
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IBWD MIke
Orange Level Joined: 08 Apr 2012 Location: Newton Ia. Points: 3407 |
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Chris, here is approximately what the tractor will look like when done. This the 'Wide-Front' when I redid the front end with a corn-picker pedestal. Wheel weights will be different. Also a shot of the tires headed for the 57. Recently got a broken bolt out of a spare manifold for that one, has a nasty exhaust leak. Really want to start making some progress on that old girl.
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IBWD MIke
Orange Level Joined: 08 Apr 2012 Location: Newton Ia. Points: 3407 |
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So I was digging around in the basement today and found some parts that will help with this project. My plan is to clean and paint another set of centers and hardware. Will have to check my inventory at the farm for the other 4. These have all been sandblasted and somewhat painted.
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