Speaking of Unusual Front Ends
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Topic: Speaking of Unusual Front Ends
Posted By: Brian G. NY
Subject: Speaking of Unusual Front Ends
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2014 at 9:19am
  Didn't want to hijack Osage's post so I'll start a new one.
Back in January of 2007 "JeremyMI" posted pictures of a very unusual NFE on a C Unfortunately I did not save the narration from the thread but I did save the pictures. As I recall, he got no responses to his inquiry of what it was. It has always intrigued me as it looks like it could be factory.
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Posted By: wjohn
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2014 at 9:50am
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I missed that original thread. Neat - I hope someone can provide some info on it. ------------- 1939 B, 1940 B, 1941 WC, 1951 WD, 1952 CA, 1956 WD-45 |
Posted By: Protrucker
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2014 at 10:13am
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I wonder if it's a Farmall narrow front put on the A/C? ------------- "ALLIS EXPRESS" Allis Chalmers  1944 B, 1949 B,  D14, WC
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Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2014 at 10:21am
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One way to get rid of that poorly designed steering box.... ------------- ALLIS EXPRESS! This year: |
Posted By: Richardmo
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2014 at 10:29am
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I sent Jeremy a text, will try and find out what the front is off of. |
Posted By: Brian G. NY
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2014 at 10:33am
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Pro, You may be onto something. That upper steering shaft support looks a lot like a Farmall B. I can't find a good enuf picture of the IH B front end on the internet to see if it also looks like it. Eldon, I, too, always thought that big pitman arm and long drag link on the C and CA detracted from their otherwise good looks. |
Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2014 at 11:13am
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I'll +1 for the possibility that it was adapted from some other machine... and a Farmall would be a strong possibility. If so, whoever did it, was truely an artist! ------------- Ten Amendments, Ten Commandments, and one Golden Rule solve most every problem. Citrus hand-cleaner with Pumice does the rest. |
Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2014 at 11:31am
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Doesn't a FarmAll cub have the same type of column? Might be pirated from a Cub? ------------- 39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife |
Posted By: Richardmo
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2014 at 11:50am
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Here is the info i got from Jeremy. I ask if was from different tractor manufactor what was it. No that front end has am casting numbers on it from allis but the steering is outside the frame with no gearbox I have been told it is a prototype |
Posted By: Protrucker
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2014 at 1:43pm
Here's the best pictures I can show you for comparison of a Farmall BN front end:
     ------------- "ALLIS EXPRESS" Allis Chalmers 1944 B, 1949 B, D14, WC
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Posted By: Brian G. NY
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2014 at 2:27pm
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Yeah, I found that one but the picture of the gear box is not too good. From what I can make out, it looks different than the one on the C. However, that picture led me to believe the steering shaft support is the same as the one on the Allis C.
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Posted By: AJ
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2014 at 7:31pm
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It could be a Farmall bulster with a C narrow front bolted to the bottom of it. Anyone know if the bulster bolt holes match up to a C narrow front support? Should be four bolt holes. Anyone know who has that tractor? I would be interested in seeing pictures of it without a grill/radiator on it. ------------- Can't fix stupid |
Posted By: MNLonnie
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2014 at 7:36pm
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Be interesting to know what the AM casting #'s are and which part of the front end they are on. ------------- Waukesha B, B, IB, G, styled WF, D15, 615 backhoe, 2-Oliver OC3's, 4 Ford Model T's, 3 Model A Fords, AV8 Coupe, AV8 Roadster, 1933 Ford Wrecker |
Posted By: Richardmo
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2014 at 10:12pm
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AJ He is good friend of mine has lots of tractors Right know he said the tractor in a shed hard to get to. I will see if about the casting #.. |
Posted By: David Maddux
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2014 at 6:12am
| I wonder if the tractor serial number is a low one? Dave. |
Posted By: AJ
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2014 at 8:47am
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I would be interested in more info on this when it comes.
------------- Can't fix stupid |
Posted By: acben20
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2015 at 8:55am
| Bump any new news on this front end?. |
Posted By: Wdtractorman
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2015 at 10:23am
| That not a farmall front end. Looks to me like a Allis front with a old automotive box grafted into it the end of it looks just like my 52 chevy gearbox I use to have |