185 For Farming and Pulling
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Topic: 185 For Farming and Pulling
Posted By: BrianC,Ont
Subject: 185 For Farming and Pulling
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2013 at 10:09pm
Can anyone tell me how light I can get a 185 for pulling. I will still want to use it for farming. I want to go to 18.4x38 on the rear, likely on pressed wheels. Did any combines come with 38" wheels on them. I would like to put a narrow front under it also when funds permit.
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35WC on steel, B with belly mower, D17 puller, D15 Series II puller, D15 Series II with loader, 608 Lawn Tractor
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Posted By: O.P.S. Heads
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2013 at 10:12pm
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6500 lbs. should be pullable and farmable too.
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Posted By: BrianC,Ont
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2013 at 10:16pm
How much safe hp out of a 301 with the pump turned up.
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35WC on steel, B with belly mower, D17 puller, D15 Series II puller, D15 Series II with loader, 608 Lawn Tractor
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Posted By: O.P.S. Heads
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2013 at 10:21pm
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Well turned up is a loosely used term. If you had the stock pump maxed out with injectors and a turbo to match I would guess 250 - 275 HP. Go to a bigger pump and get more.
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Posted By: Glockhead SWMI
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2013 at 8:26am
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The question here is SAFE power levels of a farmable 301... I would think that has a lot to do with the general condition of the engine. Also, how would the rest of the driveline hold up with the power increased?
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Posted By: Dipstick In
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2013 at 11:19am
My buddy(since deceased) ran his 7000 at 163 hp(on the dyno). The motor held up great, but he ate the transmixer devices several times. Powershift, main box and rear end couldn't hold the horses! But he had time to farm,drive school bus, drink coffee at the restraunt, go to his Masonic meetings, etc.
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You don't really have to be smart if you know who is!
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Posted By: O.P.S. Heads
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2013 at 12:40pm
Your best bet would be to have a separate set of injectors and pump to use for pulling and have the farm injectors and pump to use for farming. Doesn't take long to change them between seasons. By the way, if you are pulling anything other than a farm stock class you better put some serious thought into the proper safety equipment. If you are running more RPM than what the flywheel was designed to withstand then you should change it. The PD clutch is also made of cast iron which has the potential to explode if over sped. Be smart and good luck.
Don't worry about hurting the driveline IN A PULLING APPLICATION @ 6500 lbs. until you get over 400 or so HP. The PD clutch won't handle a whole lot more than that.
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Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2013 at 5:46am
I used to run a 185 with 18.4 x 30 (no calcium) and all factory equipment. It weighed just about 6500.
Our club does not allow a turbocharger in farm stock class unless the tractor came with one from the factory, which severely limits horsepower on the 180 or 185.
We now have a (pretty big) guy pulling a 200 in the 6500 & 8000 farm stock. The tractor is pretty stripped down and (IMHO) would never be "farmable" the way it pulls.
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Posted By: KEVIN D QUE
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2013 at 12:35pm
Hi I am the BIG GUY on the 200. Our club does allow turbos on all tractors for the last 2 years. The 200 has a stock motor,pump,turbo.The pump is turned up to a150 hp. The club allows 150 hp up to 9500 lbs . It does run good but 7 gear is to tall for 6500 on stone dust tracks.A 7000 FORD beats us on stone dust. It could be turned down to farm with ,but the front axle would not be strong enough . Would like to see a 185 turbo pull us. We need more tractors in the Club. PS I,m 215 lbs HAHA.
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Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2013 at 8:56pm
Hi Kevin!
Boy, I'm glad I didn't say a REALLY BIG GUY!!!!!
As you know I have been out of it for a few years and I wasn't aware of the rule change. The 185 has been sitting for a few years with a bad transmission, but I will be retiring soon and would like to get it going after I get my WF done.
Who knows? There may be a turbo on it for the 6500 and 8000.
Your 200 and D-31 are both great looking tractors. It's great to see some orange mixed in with all the red, blue and green!
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