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Tractomotive Loader TL

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Topic: Tractomotive Loader TL
Posted By: MNLonnie
Subject: Tractomotive Loader TL
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2013 at 9:57am
What kind of fluid do you guys run in your transmissions (Tractomotive clutch type) on the TL-6, TL-10, TL-11 or TL-12?

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Waukesha B, B, IB, G, styled WF, D15, 615 backhoe, 2-Oliver OC3's, 6 Ford Model T's, 3 Model A Fords, AV8 Coupe, AV8 Roadster, 1933 Ford Wrecker



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Posted By: iceberg210
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2013 at 11:14pm
Automatic transmission fluid, note that this fluid also runs the power steering. I believe the level was standard 4 or something that they are now on standard 6 or something so any ATF will do... Also make sure to clean out the strainer on the return line, my TL 12 had that plugged which was a lot of where my issues were... If you have any other questions let me know, the old Tractomotive/AC machines are absolutely incredible especially for their time and are awfully handy to have around.


Posted By: MNLonnie
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2013 at 5:25am
I have a parts book for the machine but I would like to get an owners/operators manual for it if one is available.

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Waukesha B, B, IB, G, styled WF, D15, 615 backhoe, 2-Oliver OC3's, 6 Ford Model T's, 3 Model A Fords, AV8 Coupe, AV8 Roadster, 1933 Ford Wrecker


Posted By: iceberg210
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2013 at 8:52am
JenSales Manual sales I know had one for the TL 12,
Don't know if they have one for the TL6
http://www.jensales.com/Search.html#/Search.html?search=allis+chalmers+tl6&category=F50996


Posted By: MNLonnie
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2013 at 6:05pm
I've looked there and they only have a manual for the motor since it's a B-125. Do you have anything that will explain to me how to adjust the clutch to get the right amount of pull?

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Waukesha B, B, IB, G, styled WF, D15, 615 backhoe, 2-Oliver OC3's, 6 Ford Model T's, 3 Model A Fords, AV8 Coupe, AV8 Roadster, 1933 Ford Wrecker


Posted By: MurphyLake
Date Posted: 16 Jul 2013 at 10:50pm
My TL10 has the serial #35 and the torque converter is 36.
I worked it on a farm for several years without leaks.

An auxiliary hydraulic outlet was added to the front to operate a tree spade.
The engine was upgraded to a WD45
iA Charlyn pump was added for power steering.

Some time after restoration the torque converter began to leak.
It became so constant so as to make the machine unusable .
The engine has been removed four times to get to the converter seal.
The shaft has a single ring for a seal.

The leak continues..
Looking for a solution..


Posted By: MattLF9
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2018 at 12:52pm
Solution: haul to scrap yard.


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A little CQB never hurt anybody.


Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2018 at 6:48pm
There has got to be a problem with the torque converter, worn out or whatever.  How much work would it be to put a different one in?  Things like that just wear out over time.
Scrap Yard are almost four letter words - never to be spoken in regards to Allis Chalmers!


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"If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer"
Allis Express participant


Posted By: MattLF9
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2018 at 7:43pm
I'm wondering if you have a groove worn into the converter and it won't allow it to seal?


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A little CQB never hurt anybody.


Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2018 at 5:10am
Groove in the shaft, a little extra wear on a support bushing, all little things internally worn to allow a little extra movement and clearances.



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