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Topic: F2 or F3 capacity

Posted By: GWS
Subject: F2 or F3 capacity
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2013 at 7:01pm

I've got a JD 4400 combine that does an excellent job, but is very slow in heavy corn (over 200 bu.). I end up in 1st gear and get a little trash in the bin. I need to speed things up. Would an F2 or F3 have any more capacity?

Also, prices for a good L seem close to a good F3. Maybe the answer is a 4 row head on an L, or is that overkill on capacity?

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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2013 at 8:11pm

F2-F3 in corn not much (if any) bigger than a 4400-4420 Deere. A model "L" is older 1972 thru 1976 and more like a 7700 Deere.

Posted By: GM Guy
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2013 at 8:34pm

My old man says it would be a close match, but figures the Gleaner would have the edge with the 2 stage cleaning, and the overall balance of the machine and being super easy to work on verus the JD, combined with that efficient and powerful 433I engine would just make for a joy of a machine compared to that overweight underpowered 4400.

As far as more capacity, while still being rather nimble, we seem to like the M series. in super heavy small grains, taking in over a foot of stubble for baling, the M series is a little narrow, but for corn we find they are plenty capable, and the open grate concave really shines. We last used one when it was wet, and we had corn, and that late M with the 6R30 black and 23.1x30 tires was just fun in the mud, and could be pushed pretty fast in our 120 bushel dryland crop.

in 78 and newer, a M2 or M3 has a factory 180 bushel bin, and can take 4 rows, so quite the punch through capability in a pivot of corn, no need to jockey around and knock over corn, just go right on through!

no matter what you choose, I would vote to get a hydro, no variable speed to slop out, and infinite speeds. IMO a little better in mud.

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Gleaner: the properly engineered and built combine.

If you need parts for your Gleaner, we are parting out A's through L2's, so we may be able to help.

Posted By: n7gleaner
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2013 at 8:47pm

Here is a quick comparison between a John deere and Gleaner

1. 4400 or 4420 pretty much the same as a F(long back) or f2 or f3

2. 6600 or 6620 pretty much the same as M or M2 or M3

3. 7700 or 7720 pretty much the same as L or L2 or L3

4. 8820 JD larger combine then the L series from gleaner but many will say an L gleaner can keep up to a 8820 JD. As long as the L has the 426CI engine in it.

Posted By: GWS
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2013 at 6:20am

Thanks for the input guys. I know what you mean about Gleaners' being easy to work on. I had a little K for years and didnt appreciate how easy it was to work on til I got the 4400. Now I need to change the unloading auger drive belt and even that looks like a nasty job! If we put the proper value on our time, it makes Gleaners worth that much more, doesn't it.

Leaning towards trading for an M this fall. Seen a couple hillside models on TractorHouse. Does the Gleaner hillside work like the system on a JD6600/6620SH?

Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2013 at 6:37am

Gleaner "hill-side" combine is a model "MH" and a corn head won't even fit on it. A Gleaner side-hill air blower on the cleaning shoe was a feeble attempt to help on non-flat harvesting conditions. I've got several things you can do to make it work much better and better than a Deere side-hill machine.