Hot Tanking a Sleeved Block
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Topic: Hot Tanking a Sleeved Block
Posted By: Bob-Maine
Subject: Hot Tanking a Sleeved Block
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2013 at 6:05pm
Just picked up the block from my '57 D-14. I had it hot tanked at a local machine shop. I asked beforehand whether there would be any problem with the sleeve seals leaking after this process and was told "no". Before I put 'er back together, has anyone had experience with this. I had hoped to avoid pulling the sleeves. Thanks
Bob@allisdowneast
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Posted By: ctbowles58
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2013 at 7:10pm
any time i had one boiled out we took the sleeves out, i don't think i would not want to trust it, while you are this far into it, why not put new sleeves and pistons in?....just my thought
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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2013 at 7:22pm
I wouldn't trust ANY shop that didn't recommend removing the sleeves before hot tanking.
Now that its done, I wouldn't think about putting any time or money in the engine without taking the sleeves out and at least replacing the o-rings. I seriously doubt the water jacket got very clean with the sleeves in it so you might need to do some work there too. The back cylinder could have lots of junk packed around the sleeve.
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Posted By: Jim seIl
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2013 at 7:46pm
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Having worked at a shop that had a hot tank and working on them after "O" rings will be gummy not normal so we always took sleeves out
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Posted By: Don(MO)
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2013 at 8:47pm
Did they hot tank your block or just put it in a hot water washer? I'm with the guys about not removing the sleeves first. what about the old cam brearings?
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Posted By: Jim seIl
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2013 at 8:52pm
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If there was cam bearings in it they are junk now if it was hot tanked with the old eat your hide stuff
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Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2013 at 9:15pm
I can't believe they would've put it in the tank with sleeves in place... that'd be like having your pants dry-cleaned with your wallet and comb in the pocket, belt still in the loops... and your shoes and socks in there too... Even if your wallet was empty... and your shoes weren't muddy...
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Posted By: Bob-Maine
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2013 at 7:49am
Thansk for the info everyone. I'm gonna order an engine kit with sleeves and pistons. I planned to replace the cam bushings. Bob@allisdowneast
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Posted By: Fred in Pa
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2013 at 7:53am
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When you clean up block and drop sleeves for fit brfore O-rings go on .Check your block deck and the sleeve height.
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Posted By: Don(MO)
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2013 at 9:13am
I'd do what Fred said about the sleeve height
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