NEXT RESTORATION STARTING
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Topic: NEXT RESTORATION STARTING
Posted By: AC Mel
Subject: NEXT RESTORATION STARTING
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2013 at 11:43am
Would like to thank everyone for the great comments on our past restoration project and the logging show pictures. It was more fun than allowed by law, but we got thru it Thought we should post up what were going to try next. This is a picture of our father with the brand new HD11B dozer serial number #815,cable blade,Carco winch. It's a 1955 year model, the first year of production for this tractor. It was ordered from the Allis Chalmers dealer in Ukiah Ca., Akin Tractor and delivered in March or April to the woods for logging the day this picture was taken. We'll use this straight blade,converting it back to cable and we'll use this lanova style engine that did run. This tractor is also a 1955 year model. This tractor has a bad main case now from stripped bolts in the intermediate pinon caps. (we call them donor tractors)  This will be the the transmission,frame and finals, this is a Lanova engine with a hole in the block, but it still has the dry steering clutches which we need (donor tractor)  This would be the canopy  These would be the swing frames and rollers  This would be the winch. All of these components were removed from a tractor that was the same year model except it had a cable angle blade (another donor tractor)  So my brother went down in back to the inventory and brought up the 2 choices for a cable hardnose, said here "take your choice,start at the front and let me know when you want me to start painting" (so that's it,stay tuned)  |
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Posted By: TomYaz
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2013 at 11:53am
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Looks like fun! Boy would I have some things to do on the property if I had one of those! ------------- If its not an All-Crop, it all crap! |
Posted By: AC-12G
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2013 at 3:30pm
| nice mel ,wished I lived close by to give you a ole........ A C hand 12-G Jerry K |
Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2013 at 6:36pm
| Very glad to see you giving new life to these ole machines. Good luck with the project! Darrel |
Posted By: ACcrazy
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2013 at 8:04pm
| Nice! Definitely keeping my eyeball on this thread since I missed your others. Love the pic of your dad on the new machine. How much would that have set one back in 1955? |
Posted By: Steve allis dozer
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2013 at 8:49pm
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Gday Mel thanks for posting the pictures its great to see your before and after pictures , Has someone put the track on backwards on that first tractor? Thanks steve
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Posted By: AC Mel
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2013 at 8:56pm
| I'm pretty sure it was around $21,000.00 the way it was equipped for logging then. That was a lot of money when timber delivered to the mill was only $10.00-15.00 per MBF. |
Posted By: AC Mel
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2013 at 9:03pm
| Steve, yes your right, both tracks are backwards, they were like that when we picked it up over 10 years ago |
Posted By: michale34
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2013 at 9:32am
| I know my dads hd6g was 18,900 in 1964 brand new i remember him saying a hd6 dozer was about 14,000 |
Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2013 at 11:47am
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See quite a few pictures where someone has installed tracks backwards , wonder if the reason is to try to get more wear from bushings or ? Then it might be they run the machines more backwards than forward and it is the right direction for what they figured they were working in. What advantage is there to going back to a cable rig rather than hydraulic, seems if cable was used for skidding logs or log lift - then hyd blade would leave the rear open for this option. See a HD5G hiding behind the one machine - should also be the project on list . What machine is the 4-71 in the far background in - looks like it also is a candidate for the restore or the new coat of orange.
------------- Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something. "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful." |
Posted By: AC Mel
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2013 at 2:09pm
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Coke, yes your right about backwards tracks.There could be other reasons, but are experience has always been most people just weren't paying attention or didn't realize there was a difference (we did it once) So the cable blade in this case is for rerestoration mostly. Hard to see in the early photo but the new tractor had a front mounted Garwood cable unit, Model #151. The same model unit was used for 11s,16s,or21s, that allowed you to have your rear mounted winch still.Ironically are father opted for the cable controlled dozer at the time instead of the hydraulics because the cable blade would lift higher and allow for more ground clearance around stumps. This would be the front cable unit. Yes the HD5 is on the project list and the 471 is in an HD9 that is just a farm tractor configuration. It runs ok and we have used it for farming (needs some other components before it makes the list)  |
Posted By: HD6 Merv
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2013 at 10:48pm
 thanks for sharing the pics guys, you guys have a great collection of tidy straight ACs there  pic of a sister bush rigged HD11B1351 that made it to the bottom of the world !
------------- tits tyres and tracks they all cost you money |
Posted By: AC Mel
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2013 at 10:37am
| Merv, Thanks for the comments, the sister tractor looks to be a 1956 model and you must still have the hydraulic tank on the right side of the deck. They only did that the first year or so before they put the tank and valve up in the front (and of course it's still orange too) |
Posted By: CAL(KS)
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2013 at 1:36pm
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When can i drop mine for off for a paint job?  ------------- Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20 Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15 |
I would be afraid to paint it as I still use to earn a little on the side, and it would get scratched up, boy it would sure look neat though. thanks for the picsPosted By: HD6 Merv
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2013 at 3:28pm
Yep hyd tanks on rh side fender; is Mactractors machine now, has been in this area as long as me and did alot of work, still goes too ------------- tits tyres and tracks they all cost you money |
Posted By: Mactractor
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2013 at 3:38pm
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Fine looking tractor Merv, owner must be proud. Coke, many ol timers prefered cable blade to hydraulic. The ones who had run tractors with both over many thousands of hours said the cable system cost way less to maintain in the long term. After having to spend a lot of money over the years on pumps, cylinder seals, valves and hoses, I quite believe them (Bob Letorneau`s ideas dont seem as silly to me these days) Personally, I prefer the look of cable blade tractors. The photo of Cal and his dads tractors shows that rugged look |